I was just attempting to pull it back to the center a bit, and get
people admitting there are shades of grey here.

I did not mention abortion, but a general "doctor's appointment",
which could include egg collection as well.

But statements like "murder", and "your moral objections shouldn't
stand in the way of research that may one day save MY life" are so
polarizing and pedantic, I wanted to get you both talking in more
thoughtful terms.

As a type 1 diabetic and without a spleen, I am very hopeful about
stem cell and gene therapies. So I am all for research, in all
directions.

But, there are things I don't want done in my name, things that
conflict with my sense of right and wrong. And I further realize that
my moral compass does not always point in the same direction as other
peoples'.

So the best we can do is talk about it all openly, have people who
constantly question the pack, and come to some consensus about what
should and shouldn't be allowed in our society.

I don't think majority should always rule, but it should definitely
affect the general course.

As for abortion, I wholeheartedly agree with the sentiment "available,
safe and rare"

On 9/7/07, Scott Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't think that there's ever been a suggestion, in all of the heated
> debates that we've had on abortion, that the procedure should be taken
> lightly. It's not. I don't think it's a birth control solution, I'm one of
> those who thinks that if it's a case of a fetus not surviving once born, or
> the mother's life will end by giving birth, then it's an option.
>
> Not for "oops, I'm preggers again".
>
> Embryonic stem cells do not come from aborted fetuses (feti?). Some of them
> come from what would be discarded byproducts of in vitro fertilization. I'd
> rather see those byproducts used for medicinal purposes than dumped with the
> trash. I believe they can also be taken from human umbilical cord blood.
>
> If embryonic stem cells can help my father's Altzheimers, my wife and I will
> produce the needed by products ourselves if need be.

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