Bruce Lee had mad skills but he was an actor. :From what I've heard, there's some sort of "mixed martial arts" that is :more boxing with some other things thrown in to make use of the feet, but :the majority of the battle is done with fists. Is this correct? Is this :the stuff I see on commercials where they fight in a cage? I don't include :these guys in my argument, because it looks like they are mostly boxers :anyway, and they look like serious contenders. Educate me on this, will :you?
You're thinking of Muay-Thai, also called Thai Boxing, it's the national sport of Thailand. it's based on a ancient Thai martial arts system Muay Boran. It involves punches, kicking, shins, knees and elbows, and they're every bit as tough as western boxers, probably more so, the only padding they wear in the professional ranks is on the hands. Elbows, shins, feet and knees are uncovered and are thrown full contact. I wont get into what these guys think of western boxers. If you want to see something even nastier, watch a Sanshou fight, it's the combat form of Wu-Shu.. it's Thai Boxing with more head kicks, throws and takedowns.. Cage fighting (UFC, King of the Cage, etc) involves multiple disciplines, stand up and ground fighting (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixed_martial_arts) Boxers or any single discipline fighter have been historically and systematically destroyed in UFC, K-1 and Pride/FC, with the exception of Brazilian (Gracie) Jiu Jitsu... until Royce Gracie was beaten by Kazushi Sakuraba, a practioner of catch wrestling. Boxers are tough, don't get me wrong, and many are truly skilled, powerful fighters, but to think that a single discipline fighter will beat someone with striking and ground abilities, not to mention knowledge of joint locks and takedowns, is just wrong... I'm a single discipline fighter, I'll hold my own against the average joe on the street, but against someone with ground skills I'm in trouble (which is why I'm working to rectify this situation) Ask the boxers at your son's school, if they'd want to get into a street fight with a professional Muay Thai fighter, or a professional mixed martial artist, I think you'll be surprised at the answer. -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer SSTWebworks 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC. 27616 (703) 220-2835 http://www.sstwebworks.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/sstwebworks Boycott Sys-Con http://www.sstwebworks.com/blog/index.cfm/2007/10/16/Boycotting-SysCon -----Original Message----- From: Adam Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 5:46 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Speling Be! > As far as boxers go, it's combat sports, they're limited by their training. > In a street fight a pure boxer probably won't win against a well trained > martial artist. A pure boxer doesn't know what to do with his feet other > than stand and move, nor will he know what to do when he's on the ground. Against just about any boxer at the Doraville Boxing Gym, any "martial artist" is for about ten seconds going to look like a fancy-assed buffoon, and then at the end of that ten seconds he will hit the floor with a resounding "thud." And I don't care where you get your martial artist, or who he is. The one possible exception might have been Bruce Lee, but he was otherworldly. You gotta see these guys. It'll change your whole perspective. Much respect to the Doraville crew. Seriously. > It's a case of "If we play under your rules, you'll win, If we play under > mine, you wont" Nope, just let him in the ring and tell him that the other guy can use his feet, but the boxer can only box. Pad them, don't pad them, your choice because it won't matter. That's one reason why my American Karate teacher cross-trained with Asa Gordon for his championship bout in 1980, because the fight was won using boxing more than anything else. Boxing is serious juju. So-called martial arts become embarrassingly laughable against boxing. There's that sweet spot just a few seconds into the match when the martial artist realizes that all his fancy moves don't mean squat because the boxer is just deflecting some and absorbing the rest, then driving his opponent backward with hard-landed punches. It's the "oh, SHIT!" moment when he loses his confidence and his eyes go wide and worried. "How can this be?! I trained and training and trained, and I have the use of my feet, so theoretically I should be able to--" and then he goes down. >From what I've heard, there's some sort of "mixed martial arts" that is more boxing with some other things thrown in to make use of the feet, but the majority of the battle is done with fists. Is this correct? Is this the stuff I see on commercials where they fight in a cage? I don't include these guys in my argument, because it looks like they are mostly boxers anyway, and they look like serious contenders. Educate me on this, will you? Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis President Productivity Enhancement ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade to ColdFusion 8 and integrate with Adobe Flex http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:247270 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
