fuzzy is as fuzzy does. wouldnt suggesting steak and potatoes be whiteracist? against whites? by that same logic? thats the problem, when chris rock makes the same joke, its all good. when fuzzy does, its FUCKED UP.
whats fuckd up is that its fucked up one way, and not the other. thats why, like chris rock, i celebrate, recognize and give due color commentary to both, equally funny, humor only, no malintent. hate that On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 6:46 PM, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > By saying those references to the cultural stereotypes, Fuzzy Zoeller shows > how much of a racist he is. That was crude and ignorant. > > > >I think you would have to ask him what he feels his cultural heritage is. > >Take Tiger Woods. In early interviews, if I remember correctly, he said he > >identified with black culture (his father) and with Thai culture (his > >mother), and his own experience includes mainstream American culture as > >well. Would I suggest that Tiger is culturally not African-American because > >he grew up with a comfortable life? Not at all. > > > >Remember when Tiger won the Masters the year after Fuzzy Zoeller, and Fuzzy > >made some idiotic remarks about Tiger serving watermelon and fried chicken > >at the victory celebration? Those are the sorts of experiences that inform > >African-Americans of their cultural heritage, regardless of where they grew > >up or how well or poorly they lived. Notice, though, that Tiger didn't dwell > >on Fuzzy's statement, because he saw it for what it was- a legacy of the > >past that should be left in the dustbin of history. > > > >Ironically, it was Bill Clinton's jibe about Obama being "another Jesse > >Jackson" that provided Obama with the first very public reminder of his > >cultural blackness in this campaign. Jackson, for all his power in the > >Democratic Party in the 80's, was forever linked to the Civil Rights > >movement, and those ties made him a "black politician" in the eyes of much > >of the public. Obama has been an activist, but in a far less divisive era, > >so he isn't tied specifically to the Civil Rights movement. Not to denigrate > >the sacrifices made during that era, because without them, there is no > >Barack Obama in national politics. He is standing on the shoulders of > >giants, political leaders like Martin Luther King, Jr., sports heroes like > >Jackie Robinson, and entertainment figures like Sammy Davis, Jr., and their > >battles and sacrifices have made it possible for a man like Obama to move > >the conversation beyond race to a shared vision for all Americans. > > > >On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Larry L wrote: > > > >> Culturally Obama may not be African American, a good portion of his > >> formative years were spent outside the US. Then when he returned to the US, > >> it was to Hawaii, not an African American cultural hotbed. By and large I'd > >> say he's American much more than African American. > >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:256285 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
