On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 12:03 PM, William Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 1. He opposes the War in Iraq. He always has. He supports the war in
> Afghanistan and has gone on record as such. He wants to keep military
> options on the table, but exhaust all avenues of diplomacy before
> using them.

"There's not much of a difference between my position on Iraq and
George Bush's position at this stage." - BHO July of '04.

He changed his position when he ran for President

> 2. . 10s of billions weighed against the current budget of...$560
> Billion--I think there might be some wiggle room.
> Ref -- 
> http://www.defenselink.mil/comptroller/defbudget/fy2008/fy2008_greenbook.pdf

Didn't we just bitch about benifits?

> 3. "Unproven missile technology" - is just that, missiles we can't
> make work, time and time again. Other weapons systems are cut all the
> time given they don't work.

3. Cut investment in unproven missile defense technology.

Isn't all new technology unproven?

> 4. "Not weaponizing space" is a pretty good goal I think, in ~50 years
> of space "travel" we've managed to not create an orbiting missile
> platform, I happen to think that is a good thing. Maybe you disagree.
> If that is so, well, nothing I say will convince you otherwise.

I'm thinking Reagan's Star wars would be nice. What if someone else does?

> 5. Create an Independent Defense Priorities Board ... -- Pretty sound
> logic there. Weigh the priorities against the recommendations, rather
> than assume a Cold War scenario, which is what we've been doing for
> the last 50 years.

Great, another layer of bureaucracy paid for by the cuts they make in
military spending

> 6. "a world without nuclear weapons" -- might be unrealistic in our
> lifetime, but lofty goal != bad goal. And what would be wrong with a
> world without nukes? What is your opposition to no nukes?

There's only one way I can think of getting there. It aint pretty.
Really, why not just say he'll creat world peace?

> 7. No development of *new* nuclear weapons -- reminds me of a story my
> father told once. (He worked for the DOD in Force Modernization) The
> Army wanted a new piece of artillery that would increase kill
> effectiveness from 96% to 97%. The Mod Managers turned down the
> proposal as it was not a significant enough increase to warrant the
> increase in spending. Our current batch of nukes I think kill pretty
> well (at least on the drawing board). What is the benefit of "new"
> when weighed against the cost of development? Notice also that he does
> *not* say stop production of current systems.

New means better and more efficient.

> 8. Global ban on the production of fissile materials -- does not
> preclude production of nuclear fuels for power. Power Grade != Weapons
> Grade.

That worked so well in NK

> 9. Negotiate with Russia to take ICBMs of "hair-trigger alert" - I
> thought this had already been done, but if not. maybe it should be.

Shhh.

> 10. And "achieve great cuts in ... nuclear arsenal". Which is already
> in progress.
>
> So where again do you get "the impression he wants to dismantle the
> military"? Where does that come from?

Cut military spending, create a panel to cut even more military
spending, stop funding new weapons is the killer. We lose if we don't
stay at the cutting edge.

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