> I think he's got more than that. Being one of the few to vote against 
> the Iraq war showed intelligence and forward-thinking that MANY people 
> lack. 

That vote was in 2002, Obama wasn't in the Senate until 2005.

> I'll take that any day over McCain's experience. We *really* 
> need to get away from this "presumptive" war approach to problems that 
> Bush used, it has killed our reputation as a nation, and shows a lack 
> of understanding about how costly and ineffective war usually is. We 
> all know how many soldiers have died, but Iraqi civilian casualties 
> have been far, far higher (collateral damage, what a sad description). 
> I have no desire to put someone in office that is going to have the 
> same approach, but someone that will work to find *any* other solution 
> first, which is how it should be. It's the underlying approach to 
> foreign policy that matters just as much, if not more, than experience. 

Obama wanted to quit the war instead of win it. The collateral damage would 
have been in vain.


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