And what about the working poor in America - we have a whole new set of hard working people who simply cannot afford healthcare if they want to eat?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dana" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <cf-community@houseoffusion.com> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 12:58 PM Subject: Re: Obama vs McCain - a pro/con list of sorts >I guess I am more worried about getting them food than improving their > moral fiber. > > I specifically mention children since you really can't argue that they > should get a job. If a kid is hungry that is a problem, sorry. Other > people may need help but the categories get more nuanced there. > > But since you mention welfare -- ok. Welfare =AFDC= feeding poor > children. You are only eligible IF you have children and IF you have > not received it before. Frankly, I don't see much problem with that. I > have a lot less problem with giving some mother 200 bucks a month than > I do with giving Exxon 200 billion or whatever the hell it was last > quarter. > > On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 2:46 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Here we go again with the poor children. The emotional argument for >> "helping the poor children" falls flat when you look at the history of >> welfare and what it did to those poor children. It didn't make them >> wealthier. It didn't make them healthier. In fact, it encouraged them >> to stay in entrenched poverty in failing communities and make the same >> bad choices their parents made that got them into this mess in the >> first place. >> >> I believe in helping people who need help. The question is who >> actually needs help, and who is just a slacker who is too lazy to get >> a decent job. I know plenty of those people in the surfing community. >> They live day to day, doing odd jobs and living very simple lives so >> they can have fun and surf all day, every day. Obama's plan would take >> my money, the money that I work day and night to earn, and give it to >> those slackers. There is no f-ing way I am paying for that. >> >> On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Dana wrote: >>> ok so let me see if I have this straight. Giving money to poor >>> children = bad. Giving money to rich corporations = good. >>> >>> I'm not talking about customers and you know it :) This is a >>> discussion of government spending. >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:268208 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
