Amazon warrior?  Are we watching the same person?   I saw a woman,
trying to be cutesy with winking, shout outs and sprinkling
colloquialisms throughout the debate.....definitely not what I picture
an Amazon warrior to be.


On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 11:09 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And my favorite liberal columnist, Camille Paglia, continues to praise her:
>
> http://www.salon.com/opinion/paglia/2008/10/08/palin/index1.html
>
> Yes, both Todd and Sarah Palin, whom most people in the U.S. and abroad had
> never even heard of until six weeks ago, have emerged as powerful new
> symbols of a revived contemporary feminism. That the macho Todd, with his
> champion athleticism and working-class cred, can so amiably cradle babies
> and care for children is a huge step forward in American sexual symbolism.
>
> Although nothing will sway my vote for Obama, I continue to enjoy Sarah
> Palin's performance on the national stage. During her vice-presidential
> debate last week with Joe Biden (whose conspiratorial smiles with moderator
> Gwen Ifill were outrageous and condescending toward his opponent), I laughed
> heartily at Palin's digs and slams and marveled at the way she slowly took
> over the entire event. I was sorry when it ended! But Biden wasn't — judging
> by his Gore-like sighs and his slow sinking like a punctured blimp. Of
> course Biden won on points, but TV (a visual medium) never cares about that.
>
>
> The mountain of rubbish poured out about Palin over the past month would
> rival Everest. What a disgrace for our jabbering army of liberal journalists
> and commentators, too many of whom behaved like snippy jackasses. The
> bourgeois conventionalism and rank snobbery of these alleged humanitarians
> stank up the place. As for Palin's brutally edited interviews with Charlie
> Gibson and that viper, Katie Couric, don't we all know that the best bits
> ended up on the cutting-room floor? Something has gone seriously wrong with
> Democratic ideology, which seems to have become a candied set of
> holier-than-thou bromides attached like tutti-frutti to a quivering green
> Jell-O mold of adolescent sentimentality.
>
> And where is all that lurid sexual fantasy coming from? When I watch Sarah
> Palin, I don't think sex — I think Amazon warrior! I admire her competitive
> spirit and her exuberant vitality, which borders on the supernormal. The
> question that keeps popping up for me is whether Palin, who was born in
> Idaho, could possibly be part Native American (as we know her husband is),
> which sometimes seems suggested by her strong facial contours. I have felt
> that same extraordinary energy and hyper-alertness billowing out from other
> women with Native American ancestry — including two overpowering celebrity
> icons with whom I have worked.
>
> One of the most idiotic allegations batting around out there among urban
> media insiders is that Palin is "dumb." Are they kidding? What level of
> stupidity is now par for the course in those musty circles? (The value of
> Ivy League degrees, like sub-prime mortgages, has certainly been plummeting.
> As a Yale Ph.D., I have a perfect right to my scorn.) People who can't see
> how smart Palin is are trapped in their own narrow parochialism — the
> tedious, hackneyed forms of their upper-middle-class syntax and vocabulary.
>
> As someone whose first seven years were spent among Italian-American
> immigrants (I never met an elderly person who spoke English until we moved
> from Endicott to rural Oxford, New York, when I was in first grade), I am
> very used to understanding meaning through what might seem to others to be
> outlandish or fractured variations on standard English. Furthermore, I have
> spent virtually my entire teaching career (nearly four decades) in arts
> colleges, where the expressiveness of highly talented students in dance,
> music and the visual arts takes a hundred different forms. Finally, as a
> lover of poetry (my last book was about
> that)<http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FBreak-Blow-Burn-Camille-Forty-three%2Fdp%2F0375725393%2Fsr%3D8-1%2Fqid%3D1171405802%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3Dbooks&tag=salonco08-20&linkCode=ur2&camp=1789&creative=9325>,
> I savor every kind of experimentation with standard English — beginning with
> Shakespeare, who was the greatest improviser of them all at a time when
> there were no grammar rules.
>
> <http://judo.salon.com/RealMedia/ads/click_nx.cgi/www.salonmagazine.com/paglia/content/[EMAIL
>  PROTECTED]>
>
> Many others listening to Sarah Palin at her debate went into conniptions
> about what they assailed as her incoherence or incompetence. But I was never
> in doubt about what she intended at any given moment. On the contrary, I was
> admiring not only her always shapely and syncopated syllables but the innate
> structures of her discourse — which did seem to fly by in fragments at times
> but are plainly ready to be filled with deeper policy knowledge, as she
> gains it (hopefully over the next eight years of the Obama presidencies).
> This is a tremendously talented politician whose moment has not yet come.
> That she holds views completely opposed to mine is irrelevant.
>
> Even if she disappears from the scene forever after a McCain defeat, Palin
> will still have made an enormous and lasting contribution to feminism. As I
> said in my last column<http://www.salon.com/opinion/paglia/2008/09/10/palin/>,
> Palin has made the biggest step forward in reshaping the persona of female
> authority since Madonna danced her dominatrix way through the shattered
> puritan barricades of the feminist establishment. In 1990, in a highly
> controversial New York Times op-ed that attacked old-guard feminist
> ideology, I declared that "Madonna is the future of feminism" — a prophecy
> that was ridiculed at the time but that turned out to be quite true. Madonna
> put pro-sex feminism on the international map.
>
> But it is now 18 years later — the span of an entire generation. The
> instabilities and diminishments for young women raised in an increasingly
> shallow media environment have become all too obvious. I had grown up in a
> vibrant pop culture with glorious women stars of voluptuous sensuality —
> above all Elizabeth Taylor, sewn into that silky white slip as the vixen
> Manhattan call girl of "Butterfield 8." In college, I feasted on foreign
> films starring sexual sophisticates like Jeanne Moreau, Anouk Aimée and
> Catherine Deneuve. Sex today, however, has become brittle and superficial.
> Except for the occasional diverting flash of Lindsay Lohan's borrowed bosom,
> I see nothing whatever that is worth a second glance. Pro-sex feminism has
> worked itself out and, like all movements, has degenerated into clichés. And
> even Madonna, with her skeletal megalomania, looks like a refugee from a
> horror movie.
>
> The next phase of feminism must circle back and reappropriate the ancient
> persona of the mother — without losing career ambition or power of
> assertion. Betty Friedan, who had first attacked the cult of postwar
> domesticity, had long warned second-wave feminists such as Gloria Steinem
> about the damaging exclusion of homemakers from their value system. The
> animus of liberal feminists toward religion must also end (I am speaking as
> an atheist). Feminism must reexamine all of its assumptions, including its
> death grip on abortion, if it wishes to survive.
>
> The hysterical emotionalism and eruptions of amoral malice at the arrival of
> Sarah Palin exposed the weaknesses and limitations of current feminism. But
> I am convinced that Palin's bracing mix of male and female voices, as well
> as her grounding in frontier grit and audacity, will prove to be a
> galvanizing influence on aspiring Democratic women politicians too, from the
> municipal level on up. Palin has shown a brand-new way of defining female
> ambition — without losing femininity, spontaneity or humor. She's no
> pre-programmed wonk of the backstage Hillary Clinton school; she's
> pugnacious and self-created, the product of no educational or political
> elite — which is why her outsider style has been so hard for media lemmings
> to comprehend. And by the way, I think Tina Fey's witty impersonations of
> Palin have been fabulous. But while Fey has nailed Palin's cadences and
> charm, she can't capture the energy, which is a force of nature.
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 8:53 PM, Gruss   wrote:
>
>> NY Times conservative columnist David Brooks, one of my favorite
>> commentators really slams Palin.  Again.
>
>
> 

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