On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Jerry Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Both Bush Sr and Dukakis were running against the memory of Reagan, which at
> the time was a good memory.

Both poor speakers so they ran on other things, like issues or memories.

> Both Bush Jr and Gore were running against the memory of Clinton, which at
> the time was a soiled memory.

Both poor speakers so they ran on other things, like issues or memories.

> Kerry was running against Bush Jr, but didnt convincingly win the argument
> "I am better than the last guy".

Both poor speakers so they ran on other things, like issues or memories.

Of these the great orators won
Reagan against Carter - OK Carter would have lost to anyone
Clinton against Bush
Obama against McCain


> On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Charlie Griefer
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>>
>> To an extent, yeah that'll always hold true.  The incumbent has made
>> mistakes.  The challenger has not (at least, not in the capacity of POTUS).
>> But Bush Sr wasn't running against Reagan.  so that particular comparison
>> doesn't work (Dukakis wasn't the predecessor).
>> Bush Jr. wasn't running against Clinton.
>> Again, Bush Jr. vs. Kerry... Kerry wasn't the predecessor.
>>

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