Why do there need to be protests against it to show that a majority of Muslims are against it?
This is basically like asking, can African-Americans live without drugs, because Gruss saw a few black guys doing drugs once. (and I would think more people die from drug use that beheading in this country) It is a ridiculous assumption to think that all or even a large percentage of Muslims support this behavior. The entire religon and its followers cannot be rubber stamped becasue of a few extremists. On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Michael Dinowitz < mdino...@houseoffusion.com> wrote: > > > > > >I don't see any Jews or Buddhists beheading anyone nor do I see them at > > >rallies chanting for anyone to be killed. If you mean that Jews or > > Buddhists > > >beat their wives, I don't know any who do and I've never heard of a case > > >where a wife was beaten because it was in their holy books. But what > > exactly > > >were you referencing when you say that Jews or Buddhists do the same? > > > > Um aren't there passages in the bible about supporting slavery and given > > divine permission to beat children and wives? > > And who may I ask are following those passages today? > Everyone pulls up the negative passages from the Torah/Bible whenever these > conversations come up but bottom line is that we don't have slaves (really > paid servitude in context) nor do we support the beating of anyone. We've > gone past those actions. > > >Try this exercise to see if you're being racist. Does the sentence parse > > >> accurately when you substitute jewish instead of Islamic or Muslim? If > > it > > >> does there's a substantial racist element in what you're saying. I'll > > let > > >> you decide on that one. > > > > > >_____ (insert people here) are acting in a medieval and uncivilized way > > when > > >they ______ (insert murderous act here) people due to a verse in the > > ______ > > >(insert holy book here). You know, no matter who I put into the > sentence, > > it > > >reads the same. > > > > Ergo its racist. You're painting a group with the same wide brush, and > > implying that they are less than human because of their ethnicity or > > religion. Its the same stuff that been done to jews, gypsies and other > > groups for generations. > > 1. a whole group -If this was a one off event then it would be one thing > but > we're talking about an action that has been repeated in numerous locations > by people of varying levels of observance, education, etc. All that ties > them together is that the action is mentioned in some way in their common > holy literature. Do I see protest marches from Muslims denouncing this? Do > I > see prominent clerics explaining that this is wrong and those that do it > are > not true Muslims? Or, as Gruss is saying, is there a silent support or lack > of protest on the part of the majority of Muslims? > 2. less than human - I never said less than human. I said that there is a > practice (action) that is uncivilized (in other words, against the modern > notion of civilization sans murder) and is supported in one way or another > by a holy book of a culture. > > You can dress up a pig and put lip-stick on it, but its still a pig. > > Now that is racist against Muslims. Using pigs in a statement. It's an > insult. > > OK, bottom line. If beheading is an action that is condemned by Muslims > then > it should be protested by Muslims. Show me those protests. > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:288679 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
