Jebus Gruss, just when I thought we had buried the hatchet. Now you force me to post again.
" Micheal is "right" given his subject matter expertise is limited to once having had a splinter removed in the UK" Ok, let's see. My father had severe rheumatoid arthritis for over 30 years until he died. He was in and out of hospital literally hundreds of times over those years. As the disease is degenerative he had numerous "breakthrough" surgeries as time progressed. He had plastic knuckles put into both hands, replacement knees, replacement elbows, had his toes operated on numerous times in an effort to stem what's called "ulnar drift." Also over those 30 years he was on a steady and increasing dosage of percodan to battle the pain. This drug is extrememly hard on the heart though and it eventually caused him to have three strokes over the course of his final two years. In each and every case he was part of the nationalised health care system and received exemplory care. Care that if we was a US citizen would've bankrupted him by the time he was 30 and probably have killed him 20 years sooner. Myself, I've had a broken ankle, broken wrist, thumb surgery when I had a major cut working in a kitchen, a broken leg from skiing drunk and of course routine visits all of which were through the same system. My sister and mother have less exciting histories but nonetheless have gone through the system their whole lives. So frankly Gruss, you can go fuck your hat when you discard my own personal experience by equating it to having a splinter removed. Fuck you very much Gruss. I haven't thought about my father in years now I'm all wound up and want a smoke. On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Gruss Gott <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Judah wrote: > > Gruss, you don't seem to appreciate that where we are at today is a > > big fucking smoking crater. > > (1.) I do understand the crater, but I also understand that you don't > go fecking with an operational system when lives are at stake. That's > just common sense ... I thought. > > (2.) I only mentioned ICD-9 because Michael said that diagnosis wasn't > a menu and, in fact as demonstrated by ICD-9, it basically is. > > (3.) You must've misunderstood everything I've been saying. I'm not > saying we don't need change and I'm not saying some type of government > architected system won't work. > > I'm saying I'm a skeptic with common sense which means I'm not going > to take your word for it when you don't understand the insurance > business model and think Micheal is "right" given his subject matter > expertise is limited to once having had a splinter removed in the UK. > > I understand you're passionate about it (me too!) and that's great - > the industry and America needs you. I just trying to be the voice of > reason by reminding you we need a very detailed and well thought out > approach. And saying "nationalize healthcare!" when you can't define > it and saying insurance has a "fundamental flaw" is not that. > > Read this: > http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/01/26/090126fa_fact_gawande > > It's written by practicing physician in Massachusetts and I basically > agree with him 100%. > > Great article. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:288984 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
