On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Robert Munn wrote:
...
>> Obama set the stage?  Are you serious? =)
>
>
> not entirely ;-)

Thank goodness!  =]

>> You don't sweat the trashing of the 4th Amendment, habeas corpus,
>> etc.. (Not that you were "down" with it, but I didn't see this
>> reaction for that stuff).

OOC
>> If we screw ourselves, it's not going to be with fiscal policy, IMO.
>
>> It's the other shit you should be bitching about, is basically how I
>> feel.  You seem to be worried about the wrong parts of "Socialism".
>
> You lost me. Which parts?
/OOC

Parts like this:

> Governing in a time of war is an exercise in pragmatism. Gitmo is still
> open, isn't it? Obama could close it tomorrow and order every person there
> transferred to a military or civilian prison in the United States. It's easy
> to bitch about the problem, but a lot harder to find a solution.

Are the "bad" parts of "Socialism".

"We're at war, keep an eye on your neighbor, and give up your rights,
because, well, we're at war"

only, this ain't the kind of war that those "war powers" were meant
for, yet because it's been called a "war on terror" (nonsense! much
like the "war" on drugs) people think: 'hey, we're fighting a war
here, we *need* to give up these rights, just like in WWII" (or
whatever-- some of the crap that went down in WWII wasn't very
American-- but I guess, it's easy to bitch about these things and
harder to deal with them-- but still, I say, some stuff is pretty
evidently *core* to being Good Americans-- Is anything worth dieing
for?  Have we found out what's worth dieing for?  Do we have to keep
finding out what's worth dieing for?  I say some things worth dieing
for have been know for thousands of years.))

I'm more concerned with those aspects, than the monetary ones, but I
know that money makes the world go round, I hear that, I listen.  Just
don't like it I guess.  Would rather "work" make the world go round,
perhaps using "time" as "money", but that's getting crazy off topic.
:-)p

>> Whatever the outcome, I'm positive (and I avoid positivity-- well, you
>> know what I mean. ;]) we made the right choice with Obama.
>
> We are where we are, no sense looking backwards now.

Yeah, but to some extent, what we see is what we get.  Sorta.

Perception is an interesting deal.  (he says, understated-ly)

-- 
There is no less invention in aptly applying a thought found in a
book, than in being the first author of the thought.
Pierre Bayl

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