> Mo wrote:
> Torture someone and they will tell you whatever is necessary to get
> the torture to stop.

It's astonishing to me how quickly these Americans are willing to
abandon their honor and ethics.

And essentially it means that these torture-proponents believe
America's historic values make her weak.

Essentially their point seems be that we should be more like the KGB and China.

They like the gulags, they like the torture, they like the authoritarianism.

And I wonder: do they think, "Yeah!  Gulags!  Torture!  All powerful
executive!  That's what makes America great!"

We fought WWII and the Cold War to rid the World of gulags and
torture, but these people want to bring them back.

What a crock o' shit.

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