Fair enough, however it's completely irrelevant. Using pot doesn't make
people want to try harder drugs.
Correlation != Causation

On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Scott Stroz <boyz...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> It can be a 'gateway drug' regardless of its the person or the drug.
> There are times where pot is merely the first step.
>
> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Michael Grant<mgr...@modus.bz> wrote:
> >
> > No I didn't miss it. If you re-read that sentence it doesn't really read
> > well if the point you are trying to make is that weed isn't a gateway
> drug.
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Scott Stroz <boyz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Obviously you missed the part where i said 'While not as prevalent as
> >> some might try to make you believe'.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Michael Grant<mgr...@modus.bz> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Marijuana isn't habit forming. Not from a physiological standpoint
> >> anyway.
> >> > And weed being a 'gateway' drug is a reflection on the people using
> it,
> >> not
> >> > on the drug itself.
> >> >
> >> > Don't believe the hype Scott.
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Scott Stroz <boyz...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> That does not make it any less habit forming or illegal.
> >> >>
> >> >> While not as prevalent as some might try to make you believe, pot can
> >> >> also be the 'spring board' drug to harder core drugs.  I doubt there
> >> >> are many crack heads who started with crack, I'd bet most started
> with
> >> >> pot or cocaine.
> >> >>
> >> >> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Ras Tafari<rastaf...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > give me a camera, a keg of beer, an ounce of weed, 12 weed heads
> and
> >> 12
> >> >> drunks.
> >> >> > when we are done the intake, ill put those people in front of 100
> >> >> > people to test annoyingness, belligerency, assholency and
> >> >> > overall well being.  then an hour later, test those same people.
>  the
> >> >> > drunks will still be drunk.
> >> >> > the stoners will be normal and far easier to deal with.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > im jus sayin
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Michael
> >> >> > Dinowitz<mdino...@houseoffusion.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> The entire part from cocaine in moderation down was a sarcastic
> bite
> >> >> >> at pot being 'benign'.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I have an uncle who lives in a nursing home. He's basically a
> >> burnout.
> >> >> >> To say that pot is benign is as wrong as saying a roofie is. Just
> >> >> >> because people smoke some now and again does not change the fact
> that
> >> >> >> it's a drug with psychoactive effects.
> >> >> >> You have alcohol as being bad but not pot. Huh?!?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Ras Tafari<rastaf...@gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> never, nowhere, no how, can roofies be considered benign, im
> sorry.
> >> >> >>> ive seen the outcome, and it was horrendous.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> cocaine, ive seen the outcome and it was horrendous.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> heroine, same thing.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> crack, same thing.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> alcohol, nearly the same.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> pot. never.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Scott Stroz<boyz...@gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> 1. Then you would be committing a crime.
> >> >> >>>> 2. Again, it would not be in moderation.
> >> >> >>>> 3. I do not have a daughter.
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> I never advocated the production/possession/use of roofies.
> >>  Michael
> >> >> >>>> was merely pointing out that just about anything, including
> >> roofies,
> >> >> >>>> can be benign 'in moderation'.  And, he is right and I was
> >> supporting
> >> >> >>>> him.
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> Just because people use the drug for heinous reasons does not
> take
> >> >> >>>> away from the fact that roofies can be benign when taken in low
> >> enough
> >> >> >>>> doses. All the horror stories and analogies do not take away
> from
> >> that
> >> >> >>>> fact. And stating/supporting that fact does not mean I (and
> >> hopefully
> >> >> >>>> Michael) are not advocating their use.
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Ras Tafari<
> rastaf...@gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> ill give your daughter one, take her out to the bar, and let me
> >> know
> >> >> >>>>> how that goes
> >> >> >>>>> for ya johnny moderation...
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Scott Stroz<
> boyz...@gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>> Those doses would not be what I would call 'in moderation'.
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>> The point being just about anything can be benign if taken in
> >> >> >>>>>> moderation, and just abotu anything can be harmful if not
> taken
> >> in
> >> >> >>>>>> moderation. As I pointed out, water can be dangerous if enough
> is
> >> >> >>>>>> injested.
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Casey
> >> >> >>>>>> Dougall<ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Scott Stroz <
> >> boyz...@gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>> > roofies are benign?
> >> >> >>>>>>>> If taken in moderation, yes.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>> And I'm sure the thousands of women who were slipped one then
> >> raped
> >> >> say the
> >> >> >>>>>>> same thing the next day.
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>> That's by far the worst drug ever invented.
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
> 

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