Dana says exactly what I feel and what I was putting forth with the image I sent at the start of the thread.
"He doesn't speak Jewish except with other Jews" - Speaking Jewish is throwing in words who's meanings are readily recognizable by other Jews. How are you doing? Barush Hashem. And you? Baruch Hashem. So were you at the Solomon chasana last night? I was only there for the chuppa and then I left. The kalla is my cousin. So how many here understand all of that? How many understand shizzel my nizzle. Is it possible for someone to speak Negro/Black/Ebonics/Ghetto/Whatever? Should anyone be crucified for pointing out if someone speaks a dialect and to whom? The whole controversy is BS and the only good from it is we see just about everyone on the list recognizing that its BS. It's not world peace but its peace enough to make me happy. :) -- Michael On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Dana <[email protected]> wrote: > > ok look > > Exactly what do you find objectionable? Let's start there. The word negro > makes me squirm a bit but there was nothing wrong with it at all until the > late sixties. How old is Reid? > > Do you think it's untrue that whites accept light-skinned african-americans > more easily? > > Do you think that it is untrue that whites more easily accept what many > perceive to be "proper English"? > > Do you think it is insensitive to say that there is such a thing as black > English? > > what? > > In turn here is my deconstruction of Lott's statements: > > "When Strom Thurmond ran for president, we [Mississippians] voted for him. > We're proud of it. And if the rest of the country had followed our lead, we > wouldn't have had all these problems over all these years either." > > I hear approval of racism there. And what pray tell are "all these problems" > that segregation was supposed to fix? And "over all these years" says to me > that it's a big ongoing problem. Integration? A problem? A big one? > > Please express your objection to Mr Reid's statements. I express this as no > fan of the guy. I think he conciliates when the situation does not call for > conciliation. But seriously. If this is a teachable moment, then teach me. > Think of me as a foreigner asking about the fine points of racial politics. > Apart from using the word "negro" what was so wrong about what Reid said and > why should he resign over it more than a year later? > > By the way, I'm rather insulted at your accusation of partisanship. I'd tell > you you were full of it no matter what party you espoused. > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> >> welcome to the world Scott. You may not have noticed but it's not >> fair. It's just like a Republican can get away with limiting funds on >> Defense, but as soon as a democrat does it, they're letting the >> country be overrun. Or a democrat can limit social spending on social >> programs, but as soon as a republican does it, they killing the poor. >> Politics is not about fairness...never was...never will be. >> >> The democrats are typically known to represent minorities...and >> because of that, they have more leeway with racial issues. >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 7:26 AM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > Judah, Dana - Thank you for not letting me down. >> > >> > Of course 'its different' - its a Democrat. If a Republican had made >> > the same exact statement Sharpton would be all up in arms and the >> > media would be calling for his head. >> > >> > On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 7:45 AM, Dana <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> Naw... you can't equate this to Strom Thurmond. You just cant. It does >> not >> >> compute. Personally, I think it's a reach to even call it insensitive. >> >> >> >> Unless there's more to the story that I missed, the worst thing we have >> here >> >> is a man in his seventies using the word "Negro" more than a year ago. >> >> >> >> The remarks about the speech mode -- many blacks do that, you know, >> speak a >> >> blacker English when speaking to blacks. It's only natural and for that >> >> matter I speak a more Canadian English when speaking to Canadians and a >> more >> >> British English when speaking to Brits. Reid may simply have been noting >> the >> >> phenomenon up close and personal for the first time. Which says his >> world >> >> may not have contained many blacks until then, but....I can't get >> >> insensitive out of it. >> >> >> >> PS I think giving Reid the boot might do the Democrats a world of good. >> But >> >> this little tempest in a teapot is just that and should not be used as a >> >> pretext. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 4:45 AM, Jerry Barnes <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> >> >>> "You obviously haven't paid attention to Black politics. Plenty of >> black >> >>> folks, politicians and otherwise, have said exactly what Harry Reid >> did: if >> >>> you are black, it sure helps to have light skin and be able to talk >> white." >> >>> >> >>> I don't think that the content of the message is the point of the post. >> It >> >>> is the treatment of the person who said it. Republicans who say >> similar >> >>> things are excoriated in the media and by their opponents. Democrats >> get a >> >>> free pass. >> >>> >> >>> "Of course not. Republicans are racist. We all know that. Wonder if >> Michael >> >>> Steele knows this though." >> >>> >> >>> I know you are being sarcastic, but many people believe what you wrote. >> >>> Abe >> >>> Lincoln was a Republican. Democrats did all that was in their power to >> >>> keep >> >>> Blacks from voting in the South during the civil rights movement. You >> want >> >>> an interesting read, check out the history of the Wilmington Race >> Riots. >> >>> There was a coalition Republican/Black town council that was running >> the >> >>> town. Everything was going swell. The Democrats sent the heavies in >> and >> >>> started lynching Blacks. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? 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