And in the last while some horrors have been prevented. Just after I
moved up here, Disney had a big push to put a theme park just west of
the Manassas Battlefield. I can just imagine the battle of Manassas
being given the Disney treatment. Now that would be classic
revisionism.

On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Eric Roberts
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Sadly...you see that a lot with buildings and objects of historical and
> cultural significance.  I am glad to see that in the past few decades, we
> have become more aware of these places and have gone to greater lengths to
> try and preserve them.
>
> Eric
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 9:46 AM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Obama approves assassination of American citizen
>
>
> Nice! In the remains of the building owned by Lucy Washington, you can
> see where bullets hit the house. The house burned down after the Civil
> War and when they built the golf course in 1991, they were going to
> tear down the remaining structure, but some locals fought it and got
> it made a historical landmark to save it - I for one am glad they did.
>
> Oddly enough, it was not until a few years ago that the remaining
> walls (parts of two adjacent walls that make am L shape) were actually
> incorporated into the tee box (the tee box is inside the walls now).
> Before that, the walls were just surrounded by weeds and overgrown
> grass.
>
> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>>
>> I just have to go about a mile and I'm on the Manassas Battlefield.
>> there are remains of civil war forts and redoubts through the area.
>> There are a few buildings left over from that time period though -
>> most were burned or otherwise destroyed during the Civil War. One
>> place still has a cannonball embedded in the wall.
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yea - Antietam is not far and Harper's Ferry (some say John Brown's
>>> raid on Harper's Ferry was the 'unofficial' start of the Civil War) is
>>> the next town over.
>>>
>>> Also, the town I live in has some colonial history as well. Charles
>>> Town was named after Charles Washington (George's brother) and the
>>> 12th tee of the golf course I live on has the remnants of a home owned
>>> by Lucy Washington (George's niece). The clubhouse at the golf course
>>> also has a display of Civil War items (bullets, rifle parts, etc) from
>>> a battle that took place on the property.
>>>
>>> The kids are getting interested in history, so I really need to brush up.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Actually where you live, you're not too far from Phillipi or the other
>>>> sites at the start of the Civil War.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I may be wrong, but I thought that slavery did nto become an issue in
>>>>> the Civil War until after the Emancipation Proclamation - which, if
>>>>> memory serves me correctly - only freed the slaves in the states that
>>>>> had seceded.
>>>>>
>>>>> I also remember being taught that the _start_ of the Civil War was
>>>>> based on socio-economic issues between North and South (I am not sure
>>>>> if slavery falsl into that category or not).
>>>>>
>>>>> Not claiming any of this as fact - just trying to remember from
>>>>> history class. (You would think, with where I live now, I would be
>>>>> more up on Civil War history - I do plan to rectify that, though)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Medic <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> C'mon Larry, everyone knows that civil war was about healthcare and
> not
>>>>>> becoming socialist. It had nothing to do with slavery, which by the
> way
>>>>>> wasn't really slavery, it was simply an inequality in the pay
> structure for
>>>>>> black workers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Larry C. Lyons
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nice bit of historical revisionism there. Lets see after that are you
>>>>>>> going to rewrite the history of the Civil War, like the latest
>>>>>>> Republican darling Virginia governor McDonnell has done?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/07/AR2010040705
> 100.html?sub=AR
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > I don't remember anyone calling him soft on terror, I do remember
> many
>>>>>>> > calling Bush evil. Obama is just continuing with the Bush strategy
> and
>>>>>>> > getting called a hero.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > You mention drone attacks as a signal Obama is tougher on terror
> than
>>>>>>> > Bush but is it that simple? Is the bombing helping or making things
>>>>>>> > worse. Could we have done more bombings two years ago?
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Seems to me it's an illusion, step up bombing, keep the wars going
> but
>>>>>>> > make nice with terrorists and beg them to be nice. It's not
> working,
>>>>>>> > the whole "The world will stop hating us" plan failed. Now the
>>>>>>> > question is what's next, does he have a plan B or will he just keep
> up
>>>>>>> > with the Bush policies?
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 12:30 AM, Judah McAuley
> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >> Certainly a ballsy move, though if what has been said about this
>>>>>>> >> particular guy is true, it seems like the order would naturally
> follow
>>>>>>> >> given what else the admin has done. Amazing to think that there
> have
>>>>>>> >> been more CIA missile strikes in Obama's first year in office than
> in
>>>>>>> >> the last 3 years of Bush's tenure combined. I'm not entirely sure
> that
>>>>>>> >> the people we are involving ourselves with in Afghanistan,
> Pakistan
>>>>>>> >> and Yemen (to name a few) are entirely the wisest choice but I'm
>>>>>>> >> astounded that people can actually think that the Obama admin is
> "soft
>>>>>>> >> on terror".
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> 

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