-----Original Message----- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 8:16 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: THere should be laws against politicians like this...
1) Pelosi, Bachmann said, "has been busy sticking the taxpayer with her $100,000 bar tab for alcohol on the military jets that she's flying." They call this Pant's on Fire because "Their Friends at FactCheck.org" decided Judicial Watch exaggerated. They don't say why or how they know this. Two bias company that we should definitely trust. ******************* Did you even read it? ************* 2) Social Security, like I told you, is out of money. This year it is borrowing from the general treasury. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/25/business/economy/25social.html Social Security to See Payout Exceed Pay-In This Year Now the NYTimes is lying. That I can believe. ***************** NY Times doesn't say it's borrowing from the general treasurey. If you would have bothered to read the entire article it does state that it is pulling from the SS trust fund, which has enough money to fund SS for 25 years. Great way to lie your ass off Sam... 3) ... over 30 percent of American physicians would leave the profession if the government took over health care. ...In fact, the survey language was that they would "try to leave" or "try to retire early" Wow, you nailed her there. ********** Try doesn't mean will. Language has a lot to do with how surveys come out...even more so than what they are surveying about. ********** 4) "President Obama's bill won't bring down the costs (of health care) for average Americans -- or really for very few Americans, if any. Obamacare Increases Health Insurance Premiums http://www.heritage.org/Research/Reports/2010/09/Obamacare-Increases-Health- Insurance-Premiums Insurance Premiums Going Up POSTED: 5:36 pm MDT September 20, 2010 http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/25091845/detail.html ****************** Heratige.org...and you bitch about factcheck.org? ****************** 5) Page 92 of the House health care bill "says specifically that people can't purchase private health insurance after a date certain." I posted that one here, it used to be on page 16 bit they added so many pages. It was in the bill. Try reading...I know those big words might be difficult for you... *************** Whatever you say Sam...just because your corporatist masters tell you to think that something exists, doesn't mean that it actually does... Bachmann's office did not respond to our call or an e-mail, but we found the language that she seemed to be referring to on Page 91 of the new bill: "The individual health insurance issuer offering such coverage does not enroll any individual in such coverage if the first effective date of coverage is on or after the first day of Y1." To decipher it, we called Karen Pollitz, project director for the Health Policy Institute at the Georgetown University Public Policy Institute. She said it was a clause that allows people who would be eligible for coverage in the new health care exchange to keep an old policy they like. "If you have a plan that's in effect prior to the effective date (of the exchange) and you like it, you can keep it," she said. (This is similar to a claim we checked back in July when the editorial page of Investor's Business Daily said the bill would outlaw private insurance . We rated that Pants on Fire.) Here's how the exchange would work: Under the House bill, insurance companies would sell individual policies through a government-run health care exchange, and the government would set minimum standards for coverage. For example, the government would require companies to cover people even if they have pre-existing conditions such as serious illnesses or pregnancy. The government would also set levels for minimum coverage for services such as mental health coverage. But if someone liked a plan they owned before the new law kicks in, they'd be able to keep the policy, no matter the level of coverage. The rules would largely prevent insurance companies from changing benefits in these grandfathered plans or altering the premiums. So Bachmann is referring to language that prevents the health insurance companies from enrolling new people in old plans that don't meet the new standards, Pollitz said. Any plan sold after the new law is enacted must provide better coverage. ************** 6) Ezekiel Emanuel, one of President Obama's key health care advisers, "says medical care should be reserved for the nondisabled. So watch out if you're disabled." ...from an academic paper in which he poses philosophical ideas but doesn't necessary endorse them Got her again. Looks like there Politifact is having trouble telling the truth. ********************* Read... http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/aug/12/michele-bachm ann/bachmann-says-obama-health-adviser-thinks-health-c/ ******************* On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 6:06 PM, Eric Roberts <ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2010/sep/21/bachmann-and-tru > th-o-meter-collected-works/ > > > > If a politician continually lies, there should be legal repercussions. It's > one thing to have an opinion, it's totally another to be a lying POS. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:327656 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
