One of many reasons why I will never move back to Ca. High prices in 
everything, commutes (the cities that pay a lot, like Los Angeles also 
cost a lot. I lived in the High Desert near Victorville where I only 
paid $600.00 a month rent for a three bedroom home, had to drive 30 
miles to the train station, take a one hour train ride to Los Angeles, 
and the return drive took me twice as long as it did to get there), the 
insane rules (like one city that banned smoking on your own property, 
can only smoke inside your house), and the fanatical liberals, insane 
gun laws, restrictions on off road vehicles and the taking away of 
places that one can ride (Like Pismo Beach where hundreds of acres of 
prime riding space is blocked off for some stupid bird called the Snowy 
Plover) I can go on and on. Colorado Springs is the place I'm going to 
retire to. Nice prices on everything, fewer restrictions on riding off 
road on public land, lax gun laws (I can obtain a C&C permit by only 
paying the fees since I'm in the military and know how to handle a 
weapon), easy commute, you can pretty much smoke wherever you want, even 
inside some bars, my extra curricular activities are affordable (snow 
boarding, rock climbing, off road riding, etc...), and a good mix of 
liberal and conservative people.

On 4/16/2011 12:33 AM, Maureen wrote:
> It is beautiful, but it has flaws, mostly traffic and high prices.  It
> takes me 20-30 minutes to drive four miles from the mountain to the
> freeway, and at least an hour to go 20 miles into San Francisco.
> Admittedly, it's the world's most beautiful commute, but rapid it
> ain't.
>
> On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 11:28 PM, Gruss Gott<[email protected]>  wrote:
>
>> Wow, Marin is beautiful.  I think there's lots of cities, and pockets
>> within cities, where prices are doing well but overall ... we'll be
>> looking for opps to get out of our ho
> 

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