Don't tell Mr. Stewart that...*grin*

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From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 3:04 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Interesting Revelation by the the Independence Hall Tea Party


having said that ... bad custodial care is better than no care in some
cases. If this initiative were to go through many children would starve
because their parents could not work. I home schooled but not everyone is
academically or financially able to make that work.

On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote:

> oh pshaw. If schools are so interested in attainment, why is it that 
> what matters for graduation is hours spent butt in chair? I have seen 
> some really good schools in my travels in the US with two children. 
> But not many. Most of them were indeed warehouses devoted to teaching 
> children to sit down and shut up and those schools tended to be in the 
> inner-city, by the way, charter or not, no matter what the movie may say.
>
> Oh and that parent-teacher thing they whine about? I went to mine, but 
> they were always about how I could help the teacher, not about how we 
> together could help the child.
>
> So....
>
> Dana
>
> On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Casey Dougall < 
> ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 11:09 PM, Jerry Barnes <critic...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > I've recommended it before and I'll recommend it again.  If you 
>> > haven't seen Waiting for Superman, check it out. If you are 
>> > sensitive, it might bring
>> a
>> > tear to your eyes.  One of the students followed goes to one of the 
>> > best public high schools in the country and enters the lottery for 
>> > a charter school in a poor district.
>> >
>> > J
>> >
>> > -
>> >
>>
>> No need wasting a 1 slot netflix home delivery after this review.
>>
>> After all of the hype this movie received, I hoped for so much more. 
>> I left the theater frustrated and disappointed. As a teacher, I felt 
>> Guggenheim missed so many arguments that should have been addressed 
>> by any critical thinker; namely, if the system is broken, which we 
>> all agree it is, then what is the solution? Most of the information 
>> in this film was obvious to me, but what I hoped to get out of it was 
>> some sort of understanding as to how he proposes to fix it. After 
>> arguing that Nordic countries such as Finland had better school 
>> systems, he made no attempt to explain what made them better. Most 
>> frustrating was his depiction of American parents as caring 
>> supporters of brilliant children. At a Title I school, few parents 
>> ever show up for conferences despite the ridiculous hours I spend 
>> waiting for them. He failed to show how schools are viewed as 
>> babysitters instead of breeding grounds for young scholars. He jumped 
>> on the bandwagon to blame teachers/unions for the failure of the 
>> system instead of recognizing the MASSIVE shift in morality and 
>> parenting that existed in those successful years of our education 
>> system. I'm impressed by Michelle Rhee's attempt to reform the 
>> system, as well as Gates's attempt to throw large sums of money at 
>> the problem, however I don't see either of them becoming successful 
>> without the support of communities that helped to create failing 
>> schools by disallowing their students to be personally responsible, 
>> and holding middle/high-schoolers accountable for their own 
>> education. Guggenheim never filmed any child above the 5th Grade! How 
>> can he begin to criticize the "dropout factories" that he never 
>> entered? 'I left the theater frustrated and disappointed,' feeling 
>> that Guggenheim had coasted through this film on the acclaim he 
>> received for "Inconvenient Truth" and not on any real merit as an 
>> investigative filmmaker. I agree the system is broken, but Guggenheim 
>> failed to do any good with the opportunity he had to help fix it.
>>
>>
>> 



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