Well THAT I can't argue with 8-)


On Jan 21, 2012, at 2:42 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> oh come on.... a campaign narrative that's completely true and factual? Now
> you *do* have my BS detector going ;)
> 
> On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Gruss Gott <grussg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Well, I would say those people don't have facts on their side.
>> 
>> Romney founded a PE company that's doing quite well - that's not easy.  In
>> addition he was a key contributor to a company that helps other companies
>> do well; the only one of its type that will take stock in lieu of fees ( vs
>> BCG and McK )
>> 
>> So whatever else you may say about him, you can't factually say he hasn't
>> been a strong contributor the the US economy - and therefore he's a job
>> creator by the facts.
>> 
>> Thus those people who question the narrative are quite wrong.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 20, 2012, at 3:19 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> I am not here to argue the point. I dislike Romney but at least he is
>> sane,
>>> unlike most of his opponents. Just pointing out that some people question
>>> his narrative.
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Gruss Gott <grussg...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> My only point would be that the shareholders decided to take it private
>> -
>>>> which is usually either because they're in big trouble or they
>> collectively
>>>> decide its time to cash out and take profits.
>>>> 
>>>> Either way, it was the shareholders call to sell.  If Bain bought and
>> sold
>>>> for profit then they must have created value to some buyer - in general
>> I'm
>>>> not seeing the problem here.
>>>> 
>>>> My guess would be that the company was struggling and wouldve gone
>>>> bankrupt without PE intervention.
>>>> 
>>>> This was much the case with Burger King and Toys r Us, both Bain
>> purchases
>>>> that both would've died without them.
>>>> 
>>>> I look at that as a positive win for both companies and their employees.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jan 20, 2012, at 10:18 AM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> it was publicly traded as I understand it
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 9:51 PM, Gruss Gott <grussg...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You win some you lose some.  It was Bains company to do with what they
>>>>>> wanted.  Would it have lasted on its own without them?  Why was it
>> sold
>>>> to
>>>>>> them?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 19, 2012, at 11:39 AM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> for what it may be worth, one Florida's experience with Bain Capital
>>>> does
>>>>>>> not support the refrain of job creation:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>> http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/01/18/2596300/in-miami-story-of-profits-and.html
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
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