I think that is ripe coming from republicans/conservatives who bitched and
moaned when Obama wanted to close gitmo and put terrorists on trial and
throw them in jail if and when convicted.    I remember quite a few here and
elsewhere saying we should just summarily execute them.  So now that Obama
is doing that, all of a sudden he is a bad guy?  You guys need to get your
story straight.  You sound as bad as Mitt.  Oh, and BTW...most liberals have
criticized Obama for the drone strikes.  Unlike most republicans, we don't
goosestep with our guy...we also criticize him when it is warranted.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:critic...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 8:23 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: GOP caught lying about Benghazi attack. Caught again.


"Yeah, because it is always a good idea to kill people rather than seek
justice.  Innocent until proven guilty don't count if someone can make
political hay by ignoring it."

Tread lightly on the subject if you're a lefty and love Obama.

Dude is droning weddings and funerals.  Then there is the infamous "double
tap" drone strikes.

Interesting article by Stanford and NYU law schools:
http://livingunderdrones.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Stanford_NYU_LIVING_
UNDER_DRONES.pdf


A key feature of the Obama administration's use of drones has been a
reported  expansion in the use of "signature" strikes. Between 2002 and
2007, the Bush administration reportedly focused targeted killings on
"personality"
strikes targeting  named, allegedly high-value  leaders of armed, non-state
groups  like Salim Sinan al Harethi and Nek Mohammad.51 Under Obama, the
program expanded to include far  more "profile" or so-called  "signature"
strikes based on a "pattern of life" analysis.52 According to US
authorities, these strikes target "groups of men who bear certain
signatures, or defining characteristics associated with terrorist activity,
but whose identities aren't known."53 Just what those "defining
characteristics" are has never been made public. In 2012, the  New York
Times paraphrased a view shared by several officials that "people in an area
of known terrorist activity, or found with a top Qaeda  operative, are
probably up  to no good."54 The  Times  also reported that some in the Obama
administration joke that when the CIA sees "three guys doing jumping jacks,"
they think it is a terrorist training camp.55

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One interviewee stated that, "after the drones, people can't go and talk
with or sit with  anybody at any time. And so they [face great difficulty
carrying] on their business and  their families."571 One man who lost a
cousin in the March 17, 2011  jirga strike, explained:

We do not come out of our villages because it's very dangerous to go out
anywhere. . . . In past we used to participate in activities like wedding
gatherings [and] different kinds of jirgas, different kinds of funerals. . .
. We used to go to  different houses for condolences, and there were all
kinds of activities in the past and we used to participate.
But now it's a risk to go to any place or participate in any activities.572

The fears the interviewees described were not limited to ceremonial
gatherings or other  large group activities. Many said that they were afraid
even to congregate in groups or receive guests in their home

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According to the Associated Press and the New York Times, the President acts
as the  final decision maker, at least with respect to the decision to carry
out "personality strikes" targeting named individuals.

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A good read.

Barack Obama, what a guy.

J

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