Its been shown over 2500 years ago that you do not need religion for
morality. After all why do you need God to be good.For that matter I
suspect you don't need philosophy either.

On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 4:12 PM, Jerry Barnes <critic...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> "That  however has little or nothing to do with moral relativism, and I
> didn't see Jerry mention religion or the bible."
>
> That's because I didn't.
>
> I guess someone is implying that religion is necessary for morals.  An
> interesting discussion that philosophers have debated for millennia.
>
>
> J
>
> -
>
> I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. — I
> think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in
> poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I travelled
> much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public
> provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves,
> and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for
> them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer. - Benjamin
> Franklin
>
> 

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