That's my take as well On Jul 22, 2013 4:55 PM, "Revolution" <h...@internetemail.info> wrote:
> > > I do not believe Zimmerman's account of how things went down. It doesn't > > pass the 'smell test' to me, > > it passes mine > > > and, if anyone ever had a reason to lie, it > > was him in this situation. > > Based on the evidence I disagree > > > > What I think happened is that he tried to be a > > tough guy and scare or intimidate Martin and it backfired when Martin > > defended himself. > > I think you are very close to being right. > The only difference is > > What I think happened is > - Zimmerman tried to a tough guy (for whatever stupid reason) and > - Martin being a "tough kid" smacked the idiot up-side-head (ie: cold > cocked him) > - when Zimmerman came around a corner (after talking to the police) to > supposedly "stalk him" > ---- this probably dropped Zimmerman to the ground. > > Martin then produced to sit on Zimmerman > - and beat the shit out of him. > > I believe Martin probably said something like > - "you're gonna die tonight MF" (ad-libbing here of course) > > And the only way for Zimmerman to exit this situation with his life > - was to pull the trigger. > > Who's fault is it: Both idiots were at fault. for being stupid. > > Unfortunately, one of the idiots died. > > As for making Martin a martyr and comparing Martin to "Martin Luther > King" .. give me a break. > > There were 2 idiots that night. Neither of them compare to Martin Luther > King. > > > > > > > > > On Jul 22, 2013, at 3:38 PM, Scott Stroz <boyz...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > I am not sure where you got that idea from Sam, I said nothing of the > sort. > > > > I do not believe Zimmerman's account of how things went down. It doesn't > > pass the 'smell test' to me, and, if anyone ever had a reason to lie, it > > was him in this situation. What I think happened is that he tried to be a > > tough guy and scare or intimidate Martin and it backfired when Martin > > defended himself. Pure speculation of course. > > > > Again, the only version we heard was Zimmerman's because Martin did not > > survive the encounter. > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Sam <sammyc...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> > >> So let's get this straight. You think Zimmerman called the po-po, then > >> attacked with intent to kill because black, because he learned in school > >> how to use the law to get away with it? > >> > >> . > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Scott Stroz <boyz...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> Witnesses saw Martin attack Zimmerman, or saw Martin on top of > Zimmerman > >>> after the 'attack' started? > >>> > >>> Subtle but important distinction. Just because Martin was on top of him > >> at > >>> some point does not mean he 'started it'. It is just as likely that > >> Martin > >>> was defending himself from Zimmerman. > >>> > >>> It is very easy to create reasonable doubt when the other guy cannot > tel > >>> their side of the story. > >>> > >>> I understand he was found 'not guilty' because the law in Florida made > it > >>> pretty much impossible to convict him, but that does not take away from > >> the > >>> fact that, after being told not to, he followed (does that word work > >>> better for you) , shot and killed a minor. > >>> > >>> > >>> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 3:16 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> > >>>> The witnesses? > >>>> > >>>> Did git even follow the trial? > >>>> > >>>> The girl friend was proven to be lying. > >>>> > >>>> The other lady ADMITTED she was lying. Based off what she saw on tv. > >>>> > >>>> He fired up, from his back while the kid was on top of him. His head > >> was > >>>> smashed into the ground and his nose broken. > >>>> > >>>> Finally you yourself just won the case for me. > >>>> > >>>> In our system all you need to do is provide a reasonable doubt. There > >> is > >>>> more than reasonable doubt > >>>> On Jul 22, 2013 3:11 PM, "Scott Stroz" <boyz...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Not true. In some places they are sworn officers. Even so, what he > >> was > >>>> told > >>>>> was sound advice and any reasonable person would have heeded said > >>> advice. > >>>>> > >>>>> How do we know Zimmerman did not 'attack' first? Oh, right...we have > >>> take > >>>>> the word of the only one of them who had a gun and used it, and > >>>>> coincidentally, was the only one to survive the confrontation. It is > >>> not > >>>>> like he would have anything to lie about. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 3:05 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> A minor who attacked him? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Yup > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Following and questioning people in public, even photographing and > >>>>>> recording them is totally legal. Dispatchers as you work know > >> aren't > >>>>> sworn > >>>>>> officers and can't TELL you to do a damn thing. > >>>>>> On Jul 22, 2013 3:02 PM, "Scott Stroz" <boyz...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Let's see....he followed Martin in his car, and then, after being > >>>> told > >>>>>> not > >>>>>>> to by the 911 operator, he pursued martin on foot. Sounds like > >>>> stalking > >>>>>> to > >>>>>>> me or maybe it is 'pursuing', either way, he should not have been > >>>> doing > >>>>>>> it.. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> But, that aside....I will amend my original comment - > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> 'Rescuing' 4 people who were uninjured does not negate the fact > >>> that > >>>> he > >>>>>>> shot and killed a minor. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Feel better about that? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 2:53 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Stalk. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> You don't even know what the word means. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I've stalked. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> In a ghilie. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> From a hide site. With a rifle. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> He asked a kid who was loitering in his neighborhood questions > >>> and > >>>>> got > >>>>>>>> assaulted for it. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I'm sick of this unarmed nonsense. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> You don't need a weapon to cause grave bodily damage and death. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Shot and killed ill give you. Not stalked. If he had stalked > >> him > >>>> he'd > >>>>>> be > >>>>>>> in > >>>>>>>> prison. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Trayvon was there long enough for Zimmerman to make phone calls > >>> and > >>>>>> shit. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I'm gonna look into shit like that all day every day in my > >>>>>> neighborhood. > >>>>>>>> I'm not even neighborhood watch. Trust and believe I don't > >> need a > >>>> gun > >>>>>> to > >>>>>>>> kill. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Top it off with the cracker shit and I see a racist punk kid > >> who > >>>>> made a > >>>>>>>> realbad decision. > >>>>>>>> On Jul 22, 2013 2:40 PM, "Scott Stroz" <boyz...@gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Tim - > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Are you implying that because he was found 'not guilty' that > >> he > >>>> did > >>>>>> not > >>>>>>>> in > >>>>>>>>> fact stalk, shoot and kill an unarmed person? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I never mentioned the verdict, merely the details of the > >>>> incident. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 2:19 PM, LRS Scout < > >> lrssc...@gmail.com > >>>> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Really? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I'm pretty sure our judicial system disagreed with you. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Not even a hung jury. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Not guilty. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> The cops didn't even want to arrest him, they were made to. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> But you know better right? > >>>>>>>>>> On Jul 22, 2013 2:17 PM, "Scott Stroz" <boyz...@gmail.com> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> He is. 'Rescuing' 4 people with no injuries does not > >> negate > >>>>> that > >>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>> fact > >>>>>>>>>>> that he stalked, shot and killed an unarmed person. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 2:13 PM, LRS Scout < > >>>> lrssc...@gmail.com > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> What a monster. > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 22, 2013 2:13 PM, "GMoney" <gm0n3...@gmail.com> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought this was an Onion headline when i first saw > >>>>>> it....but > >>>>>>>>>>>> apparently > >>>>>>>>>>>>> not! > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-emerged-hiding-rescue-family-trapped-suv/story?id=19735432 > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:365801 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
