I'm a registered libertarian, but have a Tim of problems with the big L
party.

No borders, no taxes.  Goes too far.

The next revolutionary ideology will have to account for both society and
the individual. Will have to consider Marx abd Engles next to Locke and
Paine and Rand.

Lots of chaos to come first though
On Oct 15, 2013 5:40 PM, "Judah McAuley" <ju...@wiredotter.com> wrote:

>
> My issues with the (big L) Libertarian Party are pretty long but you cover
> several of them. Fundamentally, they represent an Anti-Federalist approach
> that I think goes too far. The complexity of our country was too high to
> run as a confederation of states in 1776 and it is far more complex now.
>
> I also believe that Libertarians, much like the Tea Party, have a
> fundamental dislike of government that makes it pretty much impossible to
> govern effectively. You can't really hate your job and do it effectively.
> There must be some positive vision of the power of your office and I think
> that they fundamentally lack it.
>
> Cheers,
> Judah
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Justin Scott <leviat...@darktech.org
> >wrote:
>
> >
> > > Personally, I think that the Libertarian Party is just as bad or worse
> > > than the Republican Party. Then again, I'm a registered Independent
> > > and have been every election, save one, since I first registered to
> > > vote. I don't think much of political parties in general.
> >
> > Just as bad or worse in what ways?  "Worse" will be different for
> > different people, so without context that statement doesn't mean much.
> >  The "big L" Libertarian Party is pretty conservative on fiscal
> > matters (e.g. small government spending, cut out lots of programs and
> > entitlements, etc.) and very liberal on social matters (e.g. abortion
> > is okay, gay marriage is fine, etc.).  The Libertarians basically want
> > to stay out of your wallet and your bedroom and let each person rule
> > themselves without interfering with the rights of others to do the
> > same.  The problem is that their philosophy relies on everyone being
> > rational and fair to everyone else.  People with inherent problems
> > (e.g. mental illness, physical disabilities, severe existing medical
> > conditions, etc.) don't really have a place in that system (charities
> > and churches can take care of them, basically).  My biggest problem
> > with "Big L" politics is that there is little or no protection from
> > business interests which can be and usually are in direct competition
> > with individual interests or external interests such as environmental
> > protection.  Some businesses are great, others will abuse the heck out
> > of whatever or whoever they can and the LP doesn't have a good answer,
> > in my opinion, for reigning them in (which is why we have agencies
> > such as the FDA, EPA, etc. to begin with, agencies that the LP would
> > love to dismantle).
> >
> >
> > -Justin
> >
> >
>
> 

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