Come on, that's BS. The surplus in 2001 was a huge projection, it wasn't
real, the economy already tanked from the dotcom bubble popping. To say we
weren't in line with a guess of what the economy would be is just politics.

http://www.examiner.com/article/obama-v-bush-on-spending-debt-and-growth-of-government

In the final analysis, both presidents grew government and spent and
borrowed far too much. President Obama’s spending and borrowing is in a
league by itself, however. Obama is the only president in U.S. history to
preside over trillion dollar deficits and one has occurred each year of his
presidency.

The only other period in American history in which spending levels matched
those under Obama was when the country mobilized to fight the Axis during
World War 
II<http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/spending_chart_1900_2016USp_13s1li0181366_643cs_F0f_US_Federal_Spending>.
In the 1940s, government spending decreased at the end of the war. So far
President Obama has shown no signs of ever slowing his spending.


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On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Judah McAuley <ju...@wiredotter.com> wrote:

>
> Here are some figures from the CBO, if you like.  This particular write up
> looks at 2002 to 2011. Every year, the CBO makes a 10-year forecast,
> looking and what things should look like under current policy/conditions,
> if those persisted.
>
> http://www.cbo.gov/publication/41463
>
> "In January 2001, CBO's baseline projections showed a cumulative surplus of
> $5.6 trillion for the 2002–2011 period. The actual results have differed
> from those projections because of subsequent policy changes, economic
> developments that differed from CBO's forecast, and other factors. As a
> result, the federal government ran deficits from 2002 through 2011. The
> cumulative deficit over the 10-year period amounted to $6.1 trillion—a
> swing of $11.7 trillion from the January 2001 projections."
>
> That's a big shift, obviously. So what caused the shift?  Look at the
> included table and it breaks down about this way:
>
> $3.5 trillion – Economic changes (including lower than expected tax
> revenues and higher safety net spending due to recession)
> $1.6 trillion – Bush Tax Cuts (EGTRRA and JGTRRA), primarily tax cuts but
> also some smaller spending increases
> $1.5 trillion – Increased defense and non-defense discretionary spending
> $1.4 trillion – Wars in Afghanistan and Iraq
> $1.4 trillion – Incremental interest due to higher debt balances
> $0.9 trillion – Obama stimulus and tax cuts (ARRA and Tax Act of 2010)
>
> The CBO notes some technical issues with this analysis but it's pretty
> close by most accounts.
>
> The White House visualized the CBO data in this infographic:
> http://www.whitehouse.gov/infographics/us-national-debt
>
> I really like the Pew Trust visualizations/explanations of the changes:
>
> http://www.pewtrusts.org/uploadedFiles/wwwpewtrustsorg/Fact_Sheets/Economic_Policy/drivers_federal_debt_since_2001.pdf
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Cheers,
> Judah
>
> On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 11:49 AM, GMoney <gm0n3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > I guess i'm looking for spending figures. You do understand that a
> > "deficit" has two factors, right, only one of which is spending?
> >
> > I don't know how Obama's spending compares to Bush's (which is why i
> > asked), but I do know that Bush spent a LOT more than most conservatives
> > were comfortable with.
>
> 

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