So we're still blaming Bush for everything? The money is there for the VA,
they just abuse it. Obamacare has no chance of being better.

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On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Larry C. Lyons <larrycly...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
> AS for the VA scandal, its more of a problem of facilities and access.
> Because of cuts and increased demands from 12 years of war (courtesy
> of your hero G. W. Bush) and over promising they don't have the space
> simply put. In the last 25 years the VA has built only one, that is
> ONE, new care facility. Compare that to the number built by for profit
> health care companies. If the VA had the same level of investment the
> scheduling scandal never would have happened. That said, its a
> systemic problem with the VA system, brought on by years of increasing
> demands on the system and trying to make increasingly fewer resources
> stretch to cover more and more. And still surveys show that the
> majority of vets are very satisfied with their VA care. Now imagine
> how well the VA could have done if the system had the right funding.
> At times its seems that this country is all for getting its soldiers
> wounded and messed up but isn't really concerned about afterwards.
> After all what's a few vets in comparison to the shiny new hangar
> queen F-35 LIghtning II that costs $142.6 million a piece.
>
> On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Sam <sammyc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Just look at the VA scandal if you want to know what Obamacare will look
> > like when fully implemented.
> > Didn't we just waste around $1 billion dollars trying to get the
> exchanges
> > working and most failed. How's Oregon doing with their exchange?
> >
> > .
> >
> >
> > On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 1:05 AM, Eric Roberts <
> > ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> ...and Sam...
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Jerry Milo Johnson [mailto:jmi...@gmail.com]
> >> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 10:40 PM
> >> To: cf-community
> >> Subject: Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as
> a
> >> platform...
> >>
> >>
> >> "difficult to lie".
> >>
> >> you greatly underestimate our political class.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 11:26 PM, Vivec <gel21...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> http://www.californiahealthline.org/road-to-reform/2014/then-vs-now-ho
> >> > w-dire-predictions-about-obamacare-mostly-didnt-come-to-pass?wpisrc=nl
> >> > _wonk
> >> >
> >> > "A tracker indicates that newly insured patients aren't overwhelming
> >> > doctors.A batch of anecdotal reports suggests that hospitals'
> >> > uncompensated care spending is falling.And a survey of physicians
> >> > finds that -- while many doctors are upset about the law's added
> >> > complexity -- they're generally happy with the pay that they're seeing
> >> > through the ACA's new marketplace plans."
> >> >
> >> > I guess wants it actually starts working, it becomes very difficult to
> >> > lie lol ^_^ ᐧ
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
> 

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