Just got back to my box after some rather pressing server work. Interesting topic.
Anyone care to guess which side I come down on? Ok here is what I know. You average 11b (infantryman) has never read the constitution. He doesn't know what Posse Comitatus, and most likely he doesn't care. he thinks the part, when he was worn in, to follow the orders of the president and the officers appointed over him, is much more important than protect and defend the constitution of the united states. Then take your 11a (infantry branch officer) I have heard officers talk with such disdain for the American people, that I wouldn't want one in charge of a day care, much less the day to day operation of our nation. As an infantryman I had a well defined role when I first joined up. To meet with and destroy the enemy. That is to kill people. Not arrest them, not talk to them. Just to kill them. While I was in I took part in "police" and "humanitarian" actions. These have no place in the united states army. You can't give some 18 year old kid that kind of power and expect him not to abuse it. When you train a killer you are doing something very different then training a police officer. Posse Comitatus is there for a reason. Should it be over turned. or ignored then I think we would have no recourse, no ability to deny, that our nations government has escaped the boundaries originally intended by the founders of this nation. Scary stuff. Hey ask me again why I am against gun registration :) Tim Heald Developer Schoollink, Inc. 910.223.2116 x 122 http://www.schoollink.net Providing technology solutions for educators Fusebox Advisory Committee http://www.fusebox.org Fayetteville ColdFusion User Group http://www.fcfug.org > -----Original Message----- > From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 4:03 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Welcome to the Junta > > > It was just the National Guard, with unloaded weapons, and a curfew in > which the police did not even deal with. > > I am waiting for the next riot, in Inglewood... > > At 03:51 PM 7/22/2002 -0400, you wrote: > >I would suspect because martial law is a major thing and it would turn us > >into a Police state and i dont know about you i'm not wanting any of that > >and i'm afraid i wouldnt be voting for anyone that did that > without a good > >reason. > > > >I think martial law was declared in LA back in the riots? But it > might not > >have been, just the NG and the curfew etc > > > >Bill Wheatley > >Senior Database Developer > >Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer > >EDIETS.COM > >954.360.9022 X159 > >ICQ 417645 > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Jon Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 3:42 PM > >Subject: Re: Welcome to the Junta > > > > > > > Because our president is the Commander in Chief, that's why. That is > > > way too much power in one man. > > > I also have a sneaking suspicion the FOIA does not apply to > > > the military, and if so, I'd bet that is the whole point here. > > > > > > If martial law allows soldiers to do whatever they want, then why not > > > just declare martial law if the FBI,CIA,ATF, etc, do not have enough > > > resources to handle the terrorist threat? > > > > > > -- > > > Jon > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Monday, July 22, 2002, 3:25:11 PM, you wrote: > > > BW> What is scary about it? IF there is a state of martial > law declared > >the > > > BW> military can do just that. > > > > > > BW> But I don't see why letting the military ACT as law enforcement at > >times is > > > BW> scary besides the fact they are trained as soldiers and not law > >enforcement, > > > BW> unless they only used MP's or SP's which I doubt. Its not > saying using > >the > > > BW> military in police actions would mean its the same as martial law > >where you > > > BW> loose all your rights and guarantees. I'm sure you would > still have > >the same > > > BW> protections and hell if they screw up you can sue the > army ;) well you > >could > > > BW> try. > > > BW> Using a broken keyboard for a bettter tomorrow :P > > > BW> Bill Wheatley > > > BW> Senior Database Developer > > > BW> Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer > > > BW> EDIETS.COM > > > BW> 954.360.9022 X159 > > > BW> ICQ 417645 > > > BW> ----- Original Message ----- > > > BW> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > BW> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > BW> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 3:18 PM > > > BW> Subject: Re: Welcome to the Junta > > > > > > > > > >> Scary. > > > >> > > > >> > Ridge: Consider Using Military To Enforce Law Domestically > > > >> > > > > >> > WASHINGTON - Homeland Security Director Tom Ridge said > Sunday that > >the > > > BW> threat of > > > >> > terrorism may force government planners > > > >> > to consider using the military for domestic law enforcement, now > >largely > > > >> > prohibited by federal law. > > > >> > President Bush has called on Congress to thoroughly > review the law > > > BW> banning the > > > >> > Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines from > > > >> > participating in arrests, searches, seizure of evidence and other > >police > > > >> > activity on U.S. soil. The Coast Guard and > > > >> > National Guard troops under control of state governors > are excluded > >from > > > BW> the > > > >> > Reconstruction-era law, known as the > > > >> > ``Posse Comitatus Act.'' > > > >> > > > > >> > http://news.tbo.com/news/MGA83ZUSX3D.html > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
