Jochem!

It's Friday night ... Shouldn't you be out partying??!! ;)

We're home watching ID4 -- again, just for the hell of it. Well, I'm
pecking away on the laptop whil Phil watches and I occasionally look up
and pay attention. <grin>

Erika
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>>| -----Original Message-----
>>| From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>>| Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:26 PM
>>| To: CF-Community
>>| Subject: Re: WOO HOO
>>| 
>>| 
>>| Kevin Graeme wrote:
>>| >>One of these days soon, the bottom will drop out of the broadband 
>>| >>market .. And it'll be as easy to get as a quart of milk.
>>| > 
>>| > 
>>| > I wish. Unfortunately, the trends in dial up don't seem 
>>| to support 
>>| > that wish. Prices in dial up access have been gradually 
>>| rising over 
>>| > the past several years. It used to be that $5/month 
>>| unlimited access 
>>| > was common. Heck, NetZero and others were actually free. Now the 
>>| > average price is back to $20/month and AOL charges $24 
>>| unless you take 
>>| > restrictions or pay for your own dial up seperately.
>>| > 
>>| > I love my broadband connection. If I had to go back to dial up, I 
>>| > probably would just forego the Internet entirely. I just 
>>| don't see 
>>| > prices coming down significantly any time soon.
>>| 
>>| 
>>| Depends on where you live I suppose. Some of the 
>>| developments in the UK are quite interesting, with BT 
>>| investigating the possibility of offering DSL in CO's where 
>>| only 16 lines are desired (used to be 200+).
>>| 
>>| If you look at the new DSL hardware lines of Zyxel and 
>>| Siemens you might notice that they now feature Ethernet 
>>| interfaces instead of the usual ATM interfaces. That means 
>>| that the investment for a BBRAS ($150,000 for 1 Gbps) and 
>>| the associated management infrastructure is no longer 
>>| needed. In fact, it means goodbye to all ATM except for the 
>>| DSL line itself. And if you compare the prices for 
>>| commodity ATM hardware (STM-1 or STM-4) wih those of 
>>| commodity Ethernet hardware (GbE) you will see a 
>>| significant price difference there as well (while the 
>>| Ethernet is even faster). And it supports multicast :)
>>| 
>>| On the other hand we have emerging GigaMAN infrastructures 
>>| in many places. Basically a shared GbE infrastructure in 
>>| metropolitan areas with a limited number of connection 
>>| points (a.k.a. the Stockholm model). That means that fiber 
>>| is becoming more and more available in the vicinity of mini-CO's.
>>| 
>>| Put all this together and we are talking VDSL for prices 
>>| comparable to current ADSL in metropolitan areas. The 
>>| question is if there is any telco left with the money to do 
>>| this, and an interest in it (it would compete with their 
>>| existing DSL offerings). But the opportunities are there.
>>| 
>>| Except in the US of course, where the FTC recently ruled 
>>| that ILEC's are not required to give CLEC's access to the 
>>| local loop.
>>| 
>>| 
>>| Did I mention already that tracking the DSL market is a 
>>| hobby? Check out 
>>| http://spike.oli.tudelft.nl/adsl/maps.cfm?>>| name=latest_b for 
>>| the latest results in the Netherlands.
>>| 
>>| Jochem
>>| 
>>| 
>>| 
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