The equivalent of pikie in Ireland is knacker.
Think it came from the travellers running "knacker's yards" where they'd
take horse carcasses to boil into glue (precursor to junkyards I guess
;-)

-----Original Message-----
From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 11:34 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: What a crock


This is getting interesting... :)

At 09:59 AM 9/24/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Crickey DM! Silas Greenback nearly got you that time!
>
>Kevin Graeme
>
>BTW, pikie is a derogetory term like spick, kike, nigger, etc. It 
>apparently comes from a shortening of the word turnpike, or roads where

>they would often set up camp.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Cantrell, Adam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 9:11 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: What a crock
> >
> >
> > Krikey, did I say krikey? Of course I meant pikie. I'll have to 
> > throw that movie in when I get home tonight, all this talk about 
> > pikies and what not has me in the mood for some snatch ;)
> >
> > Adam.
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 4:03 AM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: Re: What a crock
> > >
> > >
> > > You mean "pikie"
> > >
> > > Its an insulting term for the Romany/Gypsy.  Gypsies been the 
> > > Irish equivalent of Romanies. A pikie is a gypsy that's been 
> > > expelled from the tribe in the Romany sense
> > >
> > > http://www.aldertons.com/question.htm  Do a find on the page for 
> > > pikie - the various descriptions are about hlaf way down the page.
> > >
> > > Stephen
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Cantrell, Adam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 10:08 PM
> > > Subject: RE: What a crock
> > >
> > >
> > > > I second Patrick, interesting indeed. I think they referred to 
> > > > the itinerants in Snatch as "krikeys". Was that a correct 
> > > > reference?
> > > >
> > > > Adam.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Kevin Gilchrist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 3:18 PM
> > > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > > Subject: FW: What a crock
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh and the other things they're famous for are trading
> > > ponies and bare
> > > > > fist fighting tournaments.
> > > > > There's a so-called "King of the Knackers" competition every 
> > > > > in Ballinasloe, Co. Galway every year.
> > > > >
> > > > > Friend of mine has an amusing story how one of the finalists 
> > > > > made a show of going around all the pubs in the town looking 
> > > > > for his opponent, knowing that he was hiding from the cops.  
> > > > > 'Course the
> > > guy turns up
> > > > > outside one of the pubs and knocks the crap out of him.
> > > > >
> > > > > A rowing club I belonged to in Dublin used to rent out
> > > their function
> > > > > room for itinerant weddings because no hotels would dream
> > > of it (the
> > > > > room was extremely spartan nothing redeeming at all).  Some of

> > > > > the rowers used to help out as bouncers and they said there 
> > > > > would be massive fights every time, not with the bouncers but 
> > > > > over women,
> > > money horses
> > > > > you name.  But they'd take it outside, while plastered
> > > drunk, and then
> > > > > they'd fight for a bit and afterwards they'd be the best
> > > of friends.
> > > > > Unbelievable behavior.  The rower guys used to run a book 
> > > > > between themselves to guess who'd end up fighting and winning.

> > > > > Kept them amused I suppose.
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Kevin Gilchrist
> > > > > Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 4:06 PM
> > > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > > Subject: RE: What a crock
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > That's a better generalization although not exactly true.
> > > > >
> > > > > They are officially referred to as itinerants in Ireland
> > > and are the
> > > > > equivalent of roaming trailer parks.
> > > > >
> > > > > Their history is allegedly the dispossessed of land by the 
> > > > > English over the centuries who were turfed out on the road and
> > > essentially never
> > > > > settled and kept moving.  In the early parts of the
> > > century they were
> > > > > known as "tinkers", they would repair tin pots and pans
> > > etc.  Nowadays
> > > > > they operate junk yard types of things.
> > > > >
> > > > > People go nuts when they set up camp near them due to
> > > concerns about
> > > > > crime etc. There have been numerous schems to create
> > > permanent halting
> > > > > sites for them to settle but they have never really been that 
> > > > > successful.  Many have also been offered free government 
> > > > > housing.  Most just don't want to settle.
> > > > >
> > > > > Brad Pitt plays the role of an Irish itinerant perfectly in 
> > > > > Snatch, his accent was spot-on (I was really impressed, I'd 
> > > > > written him off up till
> > > > > then).
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Cantrell, Adam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 2:52 PM
> > > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > > Subject: RE: What a crock
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > She also described herself as an "Irish traveler" a
> > > person who does
> > > > > > not have a permanent home, but travels around doing odd
> > > > > jobs....and I
> > > > > > also heard that irish travelers also many times run scams
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I think the correct term here is - Gypsy.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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