Long, useless, politically biased reply ahead. No alcohol, and worth reading simply for the fact that I wrote it :p
Adam, While I know that recent happenings in our primary sectors have left people feeling reasonably anti-corporate, you have to realize that not all large companies are evil, in fact the only reason that there are jobs in this nation at all is due in large part to the number of huge companies we have. Works something like this. XYZ has thousands of employees, most of whom make damn good money, they then go spend that money, on food clothes and luxuries, this in turn creates markets for other companies to produce goods and provide services. Now the people who service the XYZ employees have more money, spend more money, and again create more jobs. Many people today seem to think that money isn't made, isn't earned, it's transferred. This isn't a zero sum game you know. These huge faceless companies don't always just stomp people, they create new markets. They create new jobs. Also I do have to make one other comment, money driven/greedy and unethical are not the same thing. They don't have to be related at all. I am more afraid of a person who isn't concerned with money, one who acts on intangible "feelings", and opinions. Yet another problem I have with the open source community is the idea that everyone can claim ownership of the product of a single persons mind. I have grown so tired of the argument that someone else would have gotten there eventually. Someone else didn't get it, this person did it, it's theirs to do with as they see fit. The only thing I ever look at when I purchase something, weather it be software, or clothes, or food. What is it's value to me personally. Is it worth what they are asking me to pay for it. With software this means does it have the functionality I need, the support I need, and is it at a cost that I can not only afford, but matches it's value. Nothing personal man, you said earlier that your statement was probably naive. Through in the fact that I am rereading "Atlas Shrugged" for about the tenth time and you'll see where I am coming from. Tim -----Original Message----- From: Cantrell, Adam [mailto:Acantrell@;kentlaw.edu] Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 6:07 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: got a job.. > down side is there tech guy wants me to learn > php, & mySql > > which i should learn any way! long, useless, politically biased rant ahead. probably written under the influence of alcohol. probably not worth reading. you were warned. Here's why I've been getting back into open source lately, it may be different than most other's reasoning. Before, I would judge the software solely on it's technical merit. Cost wasn't really a factor unless it was a complete rip off (cough - oracle). Open source would usually come up short in the list of features it offered, or it didn't have full-time support, or it didn't have this or that. Lately though I'm looking at broader things like... "Where is the money I'm spending on this commercial product going?". I don't want to turn this into a "corporate marketing/PR/lawyers/advertising/sales/MBA/analysts people are mostly overpaid pricks" debate, but I just want to say that corporate marketing/PR/lawyers/advertising/sales/MBA/analysts people are for the most part (from my skewed perspective) overpaid pricks, and that I would very much so like to minimize my financial support towards them. Instead of protesting along with my long-hair brethren in Seattle about how money-driven, unethical, and greedy these people and their corporations are, I simply just choose not to spend money with them if there's a suitable alternative. Since money is their only motivator, and if nobody is giving it to them, they will essentially just go away. I understand this is a kinda naive viewpoint to have, and maybe even selfish, but this is a personal choice I've made. To me this seems better than "blah, xyz software doesn't even support super atomic transactionional integration processees, therefore xyz software is totally useless for my CORBA java interaction protocols and am totally offended that you would even compare it to my beloved zyx software." which is basically what most flamewars degrade into. Macromedia is at least opening up, giving some of the employees that actually know what they're talking about the freedom to share what the product is really about (much less strategy/prepared statemtent/plastic bullshit. much more un-relayed knowledge/educated opinions/true community interaction). I admire, and continue to support them for this. They also have Cold Fusion, which came from Allaire, which was a very cool company. Unfortunately though, for each well-educated, in-the-know employee at Macromedia, there are roughly 3 - 4 asswipe PR/marketing/Business Dev. clowns slowing things down, giving false information, creating bureaucracy, sensationalizing, and mostly just increasing the cost of the product. Hence, PHP/MySQL just makes me feel better when I use it; it doesn't feel 'tainted', and I can rest assured that I'm not financing some clown's Mercedes SUV, Banana Republic wardrobe, and rent on their overpriced loft at the "Wharf". This alone makes me feel good. Again, nothing technical here, and nothing Macromedia can really do about it since they do have to pay salaries, advertise their product, and fend off lawsuits from turd companies like Adobe. Adam. > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Ihrig [mailto:pihrig@;columbus.rr.com] > Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 3:17 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: got a job.. > > > well > after 3 > 2+ hour long interviews i got the job with a small archit firm.. > > down side is there tech guy wants me to learn > php, & mySql > > which i should learn any way! > > also guess they will want me to do allot of director.. > which i haven't used in 3 or 4 versions! > > should be a big change.. > will still push for cf.. > > but i needed a job. > going nuts at home! > > start on Friday.. > now where did i put that d3 file.. > =] > > -paul > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm