Provided that the people being delivered to weren't home so they didn't see who delivered it, how would anyone know whom to ask to find out who did it?
Not that I condone such malfeasance. Make it 10 yards! -Kevin > -----Original Message----- > From: Ben Braver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 3:04 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Yahoo Groups > > > That's a really dirty trick!! > > Curious - is that legal? > Or could they charge you with littering, vandalism, something like that? > > -Ben > > > > >From: Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: RE: Yahoo Groups > >Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:15:50 -0600 > > > >Hey, I said they were funny! > > > >As for the serious stalker problems, needing to contact authorities like > >the > >police isn't really a sad indication of our social system, which I think > >you > >were kinda getting at, so much as a sad indication of what amounts to a > >mental disorder on the part of the stalker. > > > >I have a little personal experience with this, so that's just why it > >tweaked > >my attention. But the original suggestions were a bit funny. Like getting > >back at an annoying neighbor by ordering a delivery of 5 yards of dirt to > >their address and paying for it in advance. > > > >-Kevin > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 1:17 PM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: RE: Yahoo Groups > > > > > > > > > Take it or leave it, these are only ideas. Whether they are > good or bad > > > ideas really does depend upon what the listener does with them and the > > > outcome in that person's situation. > > > > > > I suppose contacting the police could be useful, but isn't it sad to > >think > > > we have no solution to privacy problems without the help of > the 'proper > > > authorities' (be they sysadmins, police, etc)? Isn't it even > > > sadder to think > > > that, in many circumstances, there is nothing they can do (and > > > may not even > > > acknowledge a real problem exists)? Personally, I like > dealing with my > >own > > > problems and ask for help when it's clear I will be in over my head. > > > > > > Anyone who's read Kevin Mitnick's book already knows the > power you hold > >in > > > overcoming obstacles through social engineering. Personally, I am > > > constantly > > > surprised at what people will believe, especially ones who are giving > >you > > > their undivided attention. (For that matter, I am equally shocked by > >what > > > they will deny and ignore in order to justify their own view of > > > the world or > > > protect their interests.) > > > > > > I'm not really suggesting anyone take a specific course of > action, just > > > thinking out loud about applications of security strategy applied to > > > non-technical areas of our lives... Really, I would not do (and would > >not > > > suggest anyone does) any of these things if I/he/she felt the > action was > > > uncalled for or dangerous in the situation. > > > > > > The important thing is that the person goes away. The way in > which this > > > happens, barring violence, destruction of property, or emotional > > > damage, is > > > secondary to achieving that goal. > > > > > > M > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 12:32 PM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: RE: Yahoo Groups > > > > > > > > > While funny, these are exceptionally bad suggestions for dealing with > >real > > > stalkers. > > > > > > Stalkers feed off of any interaction with the victim. Negative > >interaction > > > works to fuel the situation just as much as positive interaction. > > > > > > The only good way of that I know to deal with it is to resort to a > > > third-party authority. It is best if that is the police because then > >there > > > is an official legal record. Calling domain owners and such > may be small > > > steps, but they lack in significant capabilities. > > > > > > -Kevin > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
