same hard drive, more memory, better graphics, same CDR/DVD etc.  even with
RISC a G3 is not faster than a P4. Don't forget most of those benchmarks are
done with apps like photoshop, that are optimized for the velocity engine,
specifically for the mac.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ben Doom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 9:45 AM
Subject: RE: Ice


> Define 'better specs', please.
>
> Are we talking about RAM and drivespace, etc?  Or are we talking about
GHz,
> 'cause you do /not/ want to get into a war with me over RISC and CISC
chips.
> :-)
>
> My co-workers (all Mac people) are looking at upgrading their PowerBooks,
so
> I looked at what a Dell Inspiron or whatever the name of the corporate
> version is would cost for similar features and (lo and behold) it came out
> to be about $2300.
>
> So I guess my question boils down to what you consider comparable specs.
>
>
> --  Ben Doom
>     Programmer & General Lackey
>     Moonbow Software, Inc
>
> : -----Original Message-----
> : From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> : Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 10:32 AM
> : To: CF-Community
> : Subject: Re: Ice
> :
> :
> : Go look at the cost of titanium:
> :
> : Cheapest 12 inch powebook is 1799, I paid 1499 for my 15 inch vaio, with
> : better specs.
> :
> : If you want the nice 17 incher gotta break off 3200???  Check out what
you
> : can get for 3200 from  Sony for a laptop.
> :
> :
> : ----- Original Message -----
> : From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> : To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> : Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 9:28 AM
> : Subject: Re: Ice
> :
> :
> : > The iBooks are really at the price equivalent of comparible laptops,
> : > with iBooks starting at less than $1000. The model I have, with the
> : > 14 inch screen, CD-R/DVD, 700mhz machine etc, going for less than
> : > $1400. So price is no longer an issue. The tiBooks are even nicer,
> : > you get a desktop machine that's really a laptop for less than $2000.
> : > the price is no longer an issue I think.
> : >
> : > larry
> : >
> : > >I do like MACs, but they are just to expensive, when I look at what
and
> : > >iBook or Titanium costs, and compare with what I can get PC
> : wise, it just
> : > >ain't worth it.
> : > >
> : > >----- Original Message -----
> : > >From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> : > >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> : > >Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 8:55 AM
> : > >Subject: Re: Ice
> : > >
> : > >
> : > >>  Yes but you still didn't have to deal with curious ferrets. That
is
> : > >>  the real difficult part.
> : > >>
> : > >>  I'm very satisfied with this machine. It runs all the software I
> : > >>  need. Its very light.
> : > >>
> : > >>  larry
> : > >>
> : > >>  >Larry,
> : > >>  >
> : > >>  >I have a Sony Vaio.  Took me 30 seconds to unscrew the
> : plate covering
> : the
> : > >>  >memory on the bottom, another 10 seconds to pop in the extra 256
MB
> : ram,
> : > >and
> : > >>  >about another minutes, (I dropped the screw to screw the plate
back
> : on.
> : > >I
> : > >>  >run Windows XP, Linux, Win2K and Win98.  Thanks to the emulator.
> : > >>  >
> : > >>  >Kevin
> : > >>  >
> : > >>  >----- Original Message -----
> : > >>  >From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> : > >>  >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> : > >>  >Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 8:36 AM
> : > >>  >Subject: Re: Ice
> : > >>  >
> : > >>  >
> : > >>  >>  It took about 5 minutes to upgrade the memory. Take off the
> : keyboard,
> : > >>  >>  remove the Airport card and RAM shield, pop in the new RAM,
and
> : then
> : > >>  >>  put everything back together. 5 minutes, and at least 3 of
those
> : were
> : > >>  >>  spent keeping the ferrets out of the computer.
> : > >>  >>
> : > >>  >>  try doing that with your Dell Inspiron.
> : > >>  >>
> : > >>  >>  I also run Windows 2000 Advanced Server,  SQL Server
> : and CF on it.
> : > >>  >>  All the same time running OSX. Try doing that with your Dell.
> : > >>  >>
> : > >>  >>  PC laptops are for wimps.
> : > >>  >>
> : > >>  >>  larry
> : > >>  >>
> : > >>  >>  >iBook? A Mac?  ugh.....drops anti-Mac bomb and runs!
> : > >>  >Aahahhahhaahahah.....
> : > >>  >>  >
> : > >>  >>  >----- Original Message -----
> : > >>  >>  >From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> : > >>  >>  >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> : > >>  >>  >Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 8:24 AM
> : > >>  >>  >Subject: RE: Ice
> : > >>  >>  >
> : > >>  >>  >
> : > >>  >>  >>  I switched out the battery last night when I was
> : upgrading the
> : > >iBook
> : > >>  >>  >>  to 640mb. I guess I forgot to reset the date and
> : time. Let me
> : know
> : > >if
> : > >>  >>  >>  its correct.
> : > >>  >>  >>
> : > >>  >>  >>  larry
> : > >>  >>  >>
> : > >>  >>  >>  >Larry, why are your messages coming through date stamped
in
> : the
> : > >70's?
> : > >>  >>  >>  >I mean wishing you were living in the past is one thing
...
> : ;)
> : > >>  >>  >>  >
> : > >>  >>  >>  >Cheers,
> : > >>  >>  >>  >Erika
> : > >>  >>  >>  >--------------------------------
> : > >>  >>  >>  >
> : > >>  >>  >>  >>>| -----Original Message-----
> : > >>  >>  >>  >>>| From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> : > >>  >>  >>  >>>| Sent: Saturday, January 03, 1970 10:38 AM
> : > >>  >>  >>  >>>| To: CF-Community
> : > >>  >>  >>  >>>| Subject: Re: Ice
> : > >>  >>  >>  >>>|
> : > >>  >>  >>  >>>|
> : > >>  >>  >>  >>>| It reputed to  be about the best coffee available.
For
> : years
> : > >it
> : > >>  >was
> : > >  > >>  >>  >>>| sold only to a very exclusive group. Now its merely
> : > >  > >>  >>  >>>| expensive, around
> : > >  > >>  >>  >>>| $40 per pound. I was very lucky in getting it
> : for about
> : half
> : > >  > >that.
> : > >  > >>  >>  >>>| About the next best coffee is called Celebes
Kalossi -
> : IMNSHO
> : > >>  >that
> : > >>  >>  >>  >>>| is. Its around 10 to $15 a pound.
> : > >>  >>  >>  >
> : > >>  >>  >>  >
> : > >>  >>  >>
> : > >>  >>  >
> : > >>  >>
> : > >>  >
> : > >>
> : > >
> : >
> :
> 
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