Thursday, June 12, 2003, 7:44:33 PM, you wrote:
>>   http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/wtwta/2959462.stm
>>
>>   Please vote...Homer Simpson is winning :(
>>   Homer Simpson, and Mr. T may be a sad commentary, but Lincoln and
>>   MLK were NOT more important than Thomas Jefferson (my vote)...pfft.
>>
>>   The people who voted for Washington and Clinton are just idiots
>>   because they probably weren't joking.

LCL> Why? Clinton did a lot for the nation, while Washington's role is 
LCL> painfully obvious. Franklin D Roosevelt probably saved the nation 
LCL> from another revolution, this time a communist one, while Jefferson, 
LCL> with all his very obvious flaws wrote one of the most important 
LCL> documents at the core of the ideals of the nation. At least Ronnie 
LCL> Raygun, Bush nor Shrub were on the list.

LCL> larry


Clinton in retrospect was a decent president, not bad, not
excellent. The greatest American though? He isn't even in that
ballpark. There has been a lot of decent presidents.
Henry Ford would rank higher on my list than either of those
presidents, or Ben Franklin.

Washington was a buffoon who only got to the the Constitutional
Congress because he married a rich mans daughter, and was a terrible
unqualified general who got a lot of soldiers killed. He wasn't good
at anything but dressing in that stupid fancy coat. They picked the
most harmless guy they could find, and made him president. Perfect for
the job imo. Definitely not the greatest American.

I could understand why someone would pick FDR...he just wouldn't be my
choice. Definitely Top 10 though.

Jefferson has always been by far my favorite, and he had very few
faults as far as I'm concerned. One example...while president he
examined every single patent application personally. Probably the last
president to even step into the patent office, let alone intelligent
enough to understand every invention.
He was the President that told American citizens that the second
amendment was their protection against the tyranny of their own
government.

-- 
 jon
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