I agree that to some people (like you and I) being called dishonorable is a
fairly serious insult, but to most Americans, it would seem.... watered
down as an insult.
Jim's bit about "this soup tastes like water" is a much better example.
-- Ben Doom
Programmer & General Lackey
Moonbow Software, Inc
: -----Original Message-----
: From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
: Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 2:41 PM
: To: CF-Community
: Subject: Re: It's here ...
:
:
: so how would you propose to translate that other than "you are less than
: honorable?" Seems insulting enough to me, but maybe I am just funny that
: way. Say it to a Klingon and he will rip your heart out :)
:
: Dana
:
:
: On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 14:12:06 -0400, Ben Doom
: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:
: > Actually, I knew that.
: >
: > My question is this: if you were trying to translate it into Klingon,
: > would
: > you use Klingon concepts?
: >
: > love = not wanting to kill you
: > forgiveness = letting you live to experience your dishonor
: > turn the other cheek = present your unwounded side
: >
: > Or would you try to keep with the original meanings?
: >
: > It's an interesting question, and it comes up because of all the /real/
: > languages where this is a problem. For example, it's pretty hard to be
: > insulting (as Westerners know it) in Japanese. Things like
: m******f*****
: > would have been taken literally (before the broad westernization of
: > Japan)
: > and would have been insulting, but not the way intended.
: >
: > That's not to say you can't be insulting in Japanese, but if you
: > translated
: > it literally into English and then said it to an American, you generally
: > would get a wierd look instead of an angry or hurt one. Who cares if I
: > am
: > less than honorable, ya freak?
: >
: >
: > -- Ben Doom
: > Programmer & General Lackey
: > Moonbow Software, Inc
: >
: > : -----Original Message-----
: > : From: Dan Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
: > : Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 1:54 PM
: > : To: CF-Community
: > : Subject: RE: It's here ...
: > :
: > :
: > : They tried that already. The group that was doing it broke up because
: > : they kept arguing with each other. Some finally decided that it could
: > : not be done because words like "love" and "forgivness" do not exist in
: > : the Klingon language.
: > :
: > : And yes I'm serious....and stop calling me Shirley.
: > :
: > : -----Original Message-----
: > : From: Ben Doom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
: > : Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 1:44 PM
: > : To: CF-Community
: > : Subject: RE: It's here ...
: > :
: > :
: > : The Bible in Klingon?
: > :
: > :
: > : -- Ben Doom
: > : Programmer & General Lackey
: > : Moonbow Software, Inc
: > :
: > : : -----Original Message-----
: > : : From: Erika L Walker-Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
: > : : Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 4:03 AM
: > : : To: CF-Community
: > : : Subject: RE: It's here ...
: > : :
: > : :
: > : : /me just assumes everyone knows what she's talking about ... And
: > offer
: > : a
: > : : pan of fresh baked muffins as a prize
: > : :
: > : : >>| -----Original Message-----
: > : : >>| From: Erika L Walker-Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
: > : : >>| Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 8:55 AM
: > : : >>| To: CF-Community
: > : : >>| Subject: It's here ...
: > : : >>|
: > : : >>|
: > : : >>| /me does happy muffin dance ..
: > : : >>|
: > : : >>| Just delivered.
: > : : >>|
: > : : >>| Funky British edition ... 766 pages, all condensed, almost 3
: > : inches
: > : : >>| THICK! ... But it's here!
: > : : >>|
: > : : >>| W00t!
: > : :
: > : :
: > :
: > :
:
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