Canada to the US.
When I drive over, I enter at the Detroit/Windsor border. When I go into
Canada, I show my passport and get grilled with questions like:
- What is my occupation
- Why am I visiting
- Do I have any weapons
- Do I own firearms even thought I don't have them on my person
- How much cash am I bringing into the country
- Who am I going to see and how do I know them and for how long
- Have I ever been fingerprinted
Then, I am asked to raise the cover on the bed of my pick up for a quick
inspection.
When I cross back into the US from Canada, it's almost silly. All they
do is glance at my passport, ask me if I want to declare anything, and
then wave me on. They never check my truck or anything. Granted they
look at me and see that I'm a white male with proof of US citizenship
but so what? American Taliban anyone?
When Amy comes to visit me from Canada, she is asked many, many, many
questions by US Immigraion even though she has a passport and Canadian
government ID. The only difference is that she flyes instead of driving.
~Dan
-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 2:56 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: The Damasus Holiday Inn...
I don't remember any Indian terrorists coming here to bomb us. Nor
Mexicans, Japanese or Russians. There's a stereotype of
Middle-easterners being terrorists and it's caused by the fact that
every one of the 911 terrorists was Middle-eastern, that 243 Marines
were killed in Lebanon, that Isreal is under constant siege from the
Palestinians, and that they throw parades when Americans die.
Ok, you don't agree with me. All I said was that it was right to be
suspicious of him. He's a middle-easterner who's associated with
somebody who is thought to be a terrorist, and he was returning from an
Islamic country, on his way to Canada, which has far more liberal laws
about people entering their country than we do. I never said it was
right to torture him or deport him. He should have been given a lawyer
at the very least. Above all, this is only if you believe everything he
has to say.
- Matt Small
----- Original Message -----
From: Larry C. Lyons
To: CF-Community
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: The Damasus Holiday Inn...
Matthew,
Britons and other Europeans also come into the US from Canada. So do
Mexicans, Japanese, Indians and Russians. So what. Hell even Canadians
come
from Canada to the US. There are terrorists in all of the countries I
mentioned. So does that give the US government the right to kidnap
them and
send them to somewhere else where he could be tortured?
The guy was not staying in the US, he was changing planes to end his
journey in Montreal, PQ Canada. He was not sneaking into the US. In
contrast he was trying to get out of the country. His only crime so
far, he
slightly knew someone who may have been suspected of having terrorist
ties.
I say suspected because the American government has offered no
substantive
evidence that Alkamadi was in any way associated with any terrorist
group.
larry
At 01:38 PM 11/5/2003, you wrote:
>The publicized fact that is that Middle-Easterners are known to come
into
>the US via Canada. This is a suspicious situation, plain and simple.
I
>didn't agree with the fact that he was tortured or deported. I said
it
>was suspicious and I believe the right thing to do is to question
further.
>You don't have to give me one, the one taints the other two. I don't
like
>a lot of things going on with this kind of interrogation, but they
were
>right on the money in detaining him for further
>questioning. Bigoted? How about realistic. Lots of people have
been
>"further questioned" for far less, including myself. I'm a young
white
>southern male.
>
>- Matt Small
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Raymond Camden
> To: CF-Community
> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 12:37 PM
> Subject: RE: The Damasus Holiday Inn...
>
> Wow, so you listed 3 facts:
>
> 1) A middle-easterner living in Canada.
>
> So, is Canada just a bunch of white guys?
>
> 2) Coming back from a Middle-Eastern country.
>
> So all Middle-Eastern countries are under suspicion now?
>
> 3) Known contact with a terrorist.
>
> Wasn't he a suspected, not proven terrorist? Wasn't the contact
from
> years ago? I can maybe give you this one, but the other two are
simply
> wrong. Bigoted at worst.
>
> -rc
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 11:40 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: The Damasus Holiday Inn...
> >
> >
> > A Middle-Easterner living in Canada, coming back from a
> > Middle-Eastern country, known contact with Middle-Eastern
> > terrorists. That's suspicious. I didn't say guilty, I said
> > suspicious.
> >
> > - Matt Small
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Raymond Camden
> > To: CF-Community
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 12:22 PM
> > Subject: RE: The Damasus Holiday Inn...
> >
> >
> > > I don't agree with the torture and deportation... but I
> > > stand by the fact that it's a very suspicious scene.
> >
> > Why? You said he was middle eastern flying from a islamic
> > country. Is
> > that something rare? Doesn't this happen thousands of times
> > a day? Is it
> > suspicious to fly home?
> >
> > -ray
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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