-Kevin
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 3:07 PM
Subject: RE: understanding bluetooth and 802.11b
> Hey - another Jornada user! ;^)
>
> I've actually got a lot sinked into my mine as well - the extended battery
> (a bit larger, but a good 18 hours of life with my usage) and the truly
> excellently designed thumb keyboard (cheap now if you can find it).
>
> Another problem for me is that the new devices tend to be eliminating the
> compact flash slot. I've got a CF modem, a CF Ethernet, a CF 802.11b and
> several gigabytes of CF storage. any new handheld has got to have a CF
slot.
> ;^)
>
> I got my wife a Dell Axim during the launch (really cheap) and she likes
it
> a lot, but I find it clunky compared to mine. The one that's caught my
eye
> currently is the "Loox" (some info here: http://firstloox.org/) . It's a
> dual slot device with lots of built in RAM (128 meg) and both BlueTooth
and
> 802.11b. Still no flip cover tho'.
>
> Still - I probably hold off until the VGA devices hit - even if I still
want
> the Loox it'll be cheaper by then.
>
> Jim Davis
>
>
> _____
>
> From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 3:29 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: understanding bluetooth and 802.11b
>
> 1. Maybe, but it will still be limited to a few service based companies
with
> budgets to do so. (http://www.nwa.com/services/handheld/)
>
> 2. Yep. That's why I specifically mentioned the resolution. I'm interested
> in the vga devices.
>
> Jornada 567 here. I wholeheartedly agree with the design comment, except
> that mine is getting some dust under the screen. I've been eyeing the new
> models, but mine does what I need and I love the flip top and extra long
> battery life.
>
> -Kevin
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 1:53 PM
> Subject: RE: understanding bluetooth and 802.11b
>
> > I think you'll see two things happening in the near future:
> >
> > 1) More websites will be designed specifically for small device usage. I
> > doubt we'll see very much CSS used to do at first. Instead I think
we'll
> > see full designs for "big" and full designs for "little".
> >
> > 2) Screens are going to get bigger. The first VGA PocketPC devices are
> > already on the market although the OS doesn't natively support them yet.
> By
> > end of first quarter/mid-year I fully expect to see full OS support and
a
> > bumper crop of 640x480 handhelds.
> >
> > Neither helps us right now. and the second doesn't help us old timers.
> ;^)
> > I'm still holding on to my Jornada 568 - best damn design EVER in a
> PocketPC
> > - I can't understand why a single other manufacturer hasn't adopted a
flip
> > lid.
> >
> > Jim Davis
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 11:50 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: understanding bluetooth and 802.11b
> >
> > In my experience, web surfing on a the PocketPC 320x240 screen is not
fun.
> > It's cool that it can do it, but sites just aren't accommodating. The
1945
> > has the 2003 OS which has much better wireless support and an improved
> > Pocket Internet Explorer, so it might be a little better than what I
see.
> I
> > think though that it will be years (if ever) before web site devs start
> > using the power of CSS to create PDA compatible sites.
> >
> > Personally, I find that the best use for the wireless so far is
Messenger,
> > IRC, etc.
> >
> > BTW, there are great handheld discussion forums at:
> > http://www.brighthand.com
> >
> > -Kevin
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Charlie Griefer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 10:32 AM
> > Subject: Re: understanding bluetooth and 802.11b
> >
> > > Hey Kevin:
> > >
> > > Thanks for the info. Sounds like in the end I'm better off picking
her
> up
> > the SDIO wi-fi card. We're presently sharing a computer (well, sharing
a
> > keyboard/video/mouse via switch), so I wanted her to be able to check
her
> > e-mail while i'm at the computer (as I frequently am).
> > >
> > > I just didn't want her to have to sacrifice access to the SD storage
> card,
> > in case she needed to save or retrieve file(s). The bright side is that
> the
> > ipaq 1945 has ~14MB of non-volatile storage built in...which should be
> able
> > to serve as temporary storage while she's "surfing" : )
> > >
> > > Thanks again.
> > > Charlie
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Kevin Graeme
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 9:12 AM
> > > Subject: Re: understanding bluetooth and 802.11b
> > >
> > >
> > > Basically Bluetooth and 802.11x are completely different beasts. You
> > can't
> > > make them directly work together. What you will need to do, as you
> > > suspected, is either get a 802.11b card for the iPaq or get a
> Bluetooth
> > > access point.
> > >
> > > Either will work and what you choose depends on your needs. 802.11x
> > (WiFi)
> > > has a larger coverage area and offers faster speeds (11mb max for
> 'b').
> > > Think of it as "real" networking with no wires. Bluetooth has a much
> > smaller
> > > coverage area, and slower speeds (723kb). Think of Bluetooth as
> wireless
> > > USB.
> > >
> > > A Bluetooth Access Point will basically act as another wireless
> network
> > for
> > > Bluetooth enabled devices. I haven't used it, so I can't comment on
if
> > it's
> > > a good solution or not. I have a Linksys CF 802.11b card for my
> PocketPC
> > and
> > > it works fine. It sucks the battery down like crazy though.
> > >
> > > -Kevin
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Charlie Griefer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 9:21 AM
> > > Subject: understanding bluetooth and 802.11b
> > >
> > > > <preface> i'm a moron when it comes to networking, wired or
> otherwise
> > > </preface>
> > > >
> > > > I've got a wireless network at home (standard 802.11b). Just
> ordered
> > my
> > > wife a new iPaq (1945), which has integrated bluetooth. Is there
any
> > way to
> > > make that bluetooth work with my existing network to give her net
> access
> > > from the ipaq?
> > > >
> > > > The unit has a secure digital slot which will accept SDIO cards,
so
> I
> > can
> > > buy a Wi-Fi SD card...but I'd prefer she didn't have to swap out the
> SD
> > card
> > > with her 256MB card every time she wanted to connect...and I'd
rather
> > not
> > > spend the $ on the SD Wi-Fi card if there's a way to make it work
with
> > the
> > > existing network.
> > > >
> > > > I'm thinking a bluetooth access point somehow connected to the
> > existing
> > > access point (maybe perhaps?)
> > > >
> > > > any info would be appreciated : )
> > > >
> > > > Thx!
> > > > Charlie
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > _____
> >
> >
> >
> _____
>
>
>
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