> Atkins says "carbs bad", all carbs. Protein and fat good. Ugh.
Ugh, yes, if only it were true. But it isn't...Atkins (who has BTW
modified and refined the diet over the years) recommends that one stay
away from refined flours and sugars and recommends higher dietary fiber
intake. Take a look at the Atkins bars in the grocery store next time
you're there... and how about that low carb (low sugar) bread (Though it
has the texture a banana bread which is a little weird on a
turkey/cheese/lettuce sandwich)?
And yes, he does (did) distinguish between good fat and bad fat.
> but that they published before a lot of the current research on
metabolism and cardiovascular health.
Why does everyone assume that Atkins stopped researching when he first
published thirty plus years ago? Did your doctor stop studying and
learning once he/she earned his degree?
> My cardiologist approves of South Beach. He does NOT approve of Atkins.
hmm... my doctor approves of both. I guess the jury is still out... My
doctor approves of the progress I've made on the Atkins diet, as I'm
sure your doctor does of your progress on the South Beach. And good for
you, too. I wouldn't dream of suggesting that your success is a fluke or
an anomaly, so please don't take this as a criticism of your dietary
choice. It's not.
> The "no carb" phase of South Beach is only two weeks.
Oddly enough, the Atkins Induction Phase ("No Carbs") is also (scroll
down...spoilers below...)
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*gasp*
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two weeks long. And includes in the recommended lunch, a nice Green
salad with dressing.
Oh and Atkins also said his diet wasn't for everybody. And it isn't. But
it works. For me. YMMV
will
Ben Braver wrote:
> Atkins is in no way "virtually the same diet".
>
> Atkins says "carbs bad", all carbs. Protein and fat good. Ugh.
> Plus, Atkins IIRC does not distinguish between "good fats" and "bad fats".
>
> The author of South Beach gives credit to Atkins, Pritikin, and Ornish
> for well-meant honest efforts, but that they published before a lot of
> the current research on metabolism and cardiovascular health.
>
> He also talks about McGovern and crew and the original AHA diet based
> on flawed research, including ignoring the data from Crete as an
> "anomoly". That anomoly later turned out to be the key - Med. diet
> (monounsaturated fats etc.).
>
> My cardiologist approves of South Beach. He does NOT approve of
> Atkins. He told me I needed to cut down on the simple or refined carbs
> which raised my Triglycerides because they affect bad LDL cholesterol.
> Also told me I was doing the right thing in eating complex carbs /
> whole grains with fiber, in eating lean sources of protein, and in
> eating "good" fats.
>
> The "no carb" phase of South Beach is only two weeks. After that, it
> is a lot more balanced. I haven't read the third "maintenance" phase yet.
>
> -Ben
>
> >Interesting that virtually the same diet...Atkins... is ridiculed as
> >"un-healthy" and "will kill you"
> >
> >Tell me, does South Beach also have a portion of the diet whereupon
> >raching your goal weight you level off at what amounts to a healthy diet
> >balancing Protein, Fat, Carbs, etc.?
> >
> >Revolutionary....
> >
> >:-|
> >
> >will
> >
> >Ben Braver wrote:
> >
> >> Carb withdrawals? I sure think so.
> >> Have been having some headaches etc.
> >>
> >> According to what I've read in South Beach Diet so far,
> >> the yo-yo swings in blood sugar from high intake of simple
> >> carbs can make you "insulin resistant".
> >>
> >> The first two weeks of the diet, virtually no carbs,
> >> break you of this. Got to have some side effects.
> >>
> >> After, you add back good carbs (whole grains with fiber)
> >> but continue to avoid bad carbs (refined white flour etc.).
> >>
> >> U.C. Berkeley Wellness Letter, a respected health monthly,
> >> says South Beach looks like a sensible, healthy diet, and
> >> the not-so-healthy first 2 weeks is short enough to not hurt.
> >>
> >> -Ben
> >>
> >> >Ben Braver wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I've been having things like peanuts/cashews, roasted soy nuts,
> >> >> edamame, Laughing Cow Light reduced-fat soft cheese on celery,
> >> >> Mozzarella string cheese and bags of veggies, etc.
> >> >
> >> >I'm going to pick up some snack foods from a little health food
> store in
> >> >town. They have a great wasabi pea trail mix. It is sooooooo good.
> >> >
> >> >> Yes, according to South Beach Diet, heavy carbs can mess up your
> >> >> body's response to insulin. Also, it causes "spikes" in blood sugar
> >> >> which then make you crash, so you "yo-yo".
> >> >
> >> >Is there such a thing as carb withdrawals?
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
>
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