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-----Original Message-----
From: Lyons, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 11:12 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: News bias
The point I was making is that the people we now know as the Palestinians
were living in the area well before the partition. Also the Jews who were
living in the area were as likely to massacre their non-Jewish neighbours as
they were likely to massacre their Jewish neighbours. No one, Jews,
Christians, Moslems, Mongols, Turks, Europeans, etc. were all that innocent.
To a great extent they are all guilty of the same things. Remember groups
like the Irgun and the Stern Gang (terrorist groups that later evolved into
the Likud party) committed some fairly nasty atrocities. Similarly Sharon
was shown to be responsible for the massacre of several villages in the
Sinai in the 1956 war. On the other hand what is now considered the
Palestinians are also responsible for their fair share of atrocities.
That said, a significant part of the problem is that many are trapped by the
past and past events. That is why I suggest depopulating the area and
starting over again. Perhaps move the Serbs to Israel, the Northern Irish
Catholics to Rwanda, and the Tutsis of Rwanda to Serbia. That way all those
groups can start fresh.
larry
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 10:56 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: News bias
>
>
> 1. Israel returned most of the land from the wars in return
> for peace. 2. Jews have been living there for the same time
> and earlier (when not killed by crusaders, Muslim mobs, etc.)
> 3. The amount of Arabs living in the area were very low in
> comparison to all that claim it now. All you need is a
> relative in the area to claim you live there. Arafat is from
> Egypt, yet is the 'father' of Palestinian independence. Point.
>
>
> > It's a bit complicated. From the early middle ages to the 12th
> > Century,
> the
> > area was controlled by the Islamic Caliphate. It was populated by a
> mixture
> > of Christians, Jews and Moslems. Then for about 200 years it was
> controlled
> > by European Crusaders. Then by the Ottoman Turks until the
> First World
> > War when Palestine was taken over by the British. They controlled
> > Palestine until 1948 when it was partitioned into Israel and
> > Palestine. During the Israeli war of Independence, the Suez War of
> > 1956 and the 7 Day War in
> 1967,
> > Israel expanded to its current boundaries. Its rather
> disingenuous to
> > say that the Palestinians were recent migrants, since there
> has been a
> > historical record of Palestinians living there since the Islamic
> > conquest
> of
> > the 7th century A.D.
>
>
>
>
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