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From: Lyons, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 10:31 AM
To: CF-Jobs-Talk
Subject: RE: was a tricky situation
This week I am dealing with a page that makes at least 8 database calls all
the same, no caching etc, with more includes that a demented fusebox coder
would use. I ended up rewriting the page. Now its about 100 lines of code,
one database call and one include.
As I said, sometiimes I think that some people develop pages strictly for
job security. The maintenance on the old page was ugly.
larry
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From: Aaron Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 10:31 AM
To: CF-Jobs-Talk
Subject: RE: was a tricky situation
I actually just remember even more recently than when I worked at the
University I came across bad coding practices. After working in such
scenarios I really do not think the ones I have been exposed to are for
job security, I think it is more of a lack of knowledge in the particular
task the people are setting out to get done. After hearing how Blackstone
is going to be more user friendly in hopes of gaining more
"programmers" of CF, I really wonder if that is just going to make life
harder on people. Seems like it might make people think they know a
language when really they know very little about it.
Snipe - <CF_BotMaster Network="EFNet" Channel="ColdFusion">
On Thu, 17 Jun 2004, Lyons, Larry wrote:
> It very sounds like sites I've recently worked on, without naming name
that
> is. AS far as I can figure at least some of the time an approach, the app
> was written more to provide job security than anything else.
>
> Larry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Aaron Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 5:50 PM
> To: CF-Jobs-Talk
> Subject: Re: was a tricky situation
>
>
> When I was working at Rice University a few years back there were numerous
> code examples that match what you just gave. It was horrible to go in
> behind the developers who had made those systems and try to debug a
> problem. They were always very unaccepting of change in coding methods or
> much of anything else to top it all off. More times than not if I had to
> go into one of those applications to fix some reported error by a user, I
> would end up rewriting what ever piece was erroring out. I found it
> easier to do that than to try and figure out what they were attempting to
> do.
>
> Snipe - <CF_BotMaster Network="EFNet" Channel="ColdFusion">
>
> On Wed, 16 Jun 2004, Joshua O'Connor-Rose wrote:
>
> > so here's an example. Its not wrong just hard to read
> >
> > all forms post to a page called process.cfm which does a cfif on the
name
> of the submit button.
> >
> > after a bit he found that the process page was getting too long so now
> there are pages called process2.cfm process3.cfm and so on.
> >
> > Are joins cumbersome in access? would they be bad to use in anycase they
> didn't exist so much until I got here.
> >
> > I have done my part, I have made numerous recommendations to the
director
> of it (who the senior developer is not a part of) and warned about the
> stablity of a site that runs soley on access.
> >
> > my current joy is that I created the first application variable the
other
> day and so bit by bit I may be able to get some good logic going on.
> >
> > -Joshua O'Connor-Rose
> > -All is Good
> >
> >
>
>
>
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