sure a bunch of people on this list don't.. Please don't ruin the CF-Jobs
list by making potential employers unsubscribe because they're receiving too
much spam.
Like Michael said. MOVE THIS to CF-Jobs-Talk, that's what that list is for.
I've replied to both lists, so make all replies on CF-Jobs-Talk.
Russ
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 10:51 AM
To: CF-Jobs
Subject: RE: Looking for CF Projects
I am hesitant to weigh in on this heated debate, you know, rise above the
fray and all that, but I will mention a story a friend told me:
He told me the story of an acquaintance who got together a group of friends
who were undergrad students in Bangalore. They created a website of a fake
company, created fake resumes of the "Board of directors" listing PhDs and
other nonexistant credentials, created a fake portfolio of sites from their
various class projects, and started bidding on contracts using undergrad
students to cobble together applications. The marketing idea was, hey
you're getting a PhD to do the work for $30 per hour, when in fact the
customer was getting a group of kids in a dorm to do the work for $30 per
hour- and how would they know 12 time zones away? It's probably an an
urban legend, but I think it speaks to the fear of a "pig in a poke."
Don
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From: Foster, Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 00:45:46 -0500
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Looking for CF Projects
I would agree that racism is silly but I had to fix more problems from
oversea than you may have. The work was poor and the attention to
detail was lacking. But don't get me wrong. You can find this anywhere
you go. Frankly, when I here about someone sending work off shores then
I laid my bet that they will bring it back and someone has to fix it; 9
times out of 10 I'm right. This isn't just my opinion or even an
American opinion I've heard this from all over the world.
It is a buyers market and that's just the way it is. To answer Shamshad
Quamar; the unemployment line. I was on it for 2.5 years. I'm working
again but not in the web industry as much as I was. I've had to return
to Helpdesk Support due to lack of work.
Lee Foster
(e)consultant, Web developer, Web Architect
"Dude you're getting a Dell"
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
615-834-1876
http://www.l3enterprises.com
Nashville, TN
-----Original Message-----
From: lmarcus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 4:29 PM
To: CF-Jobs
Subject: RE: Looking for CF Projects
To accuse me of racism is pretty silly. I have had more experience with
programmers from the third world countries than you have and
my experience mirrors the experience of many others. I guess you haven't
been a programmer very long.
L Marcus
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From: Stuart Kidd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 4:56 PM
To: lmarcus; CF-Jobs
Subject: Re: Looking for CF Projects
I think your reply was a bit rude. I think the list is for CF jobs, not
racist remarks.
I don't know where you learnt your manners but it seems to me you don't
have
much sense. I wouldn't be surprised if most of the people on this list
agree with me on this.
And sort out your carriage returns.
On 1/9/04 9:45 pm, "lmarcus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
LOL, what is the hourly rate? If the code is spaghetti or doesn't work
can I
take a subway to India to straighten it out? I know your
People know nothing of business rules and you have to spoonfeed them
every
detail and your costs go up in 6 months. Please don't
Advertise here, we have enough bad coders who do CF.
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From: Anuj Gakhar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 4:23 PM
To: CF-Jobs
Subject: Looking for CF Projects
Hi all,
I am running an IT firm in India , here is the URL
www.mavensolutions.net
we have a strong CF team and we are looking for CF projects. Any one who
has
a requirement, be it large or small, please contact me at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] for details.
Thanks and I hope I get some leads here.
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