I thought I'd put in my two cents. I always take the position that an individual's approach to development is what distinguishes them as a software developer rather than a web developer. I would not categorize the majority of the ColdFusion developers I've met as software developers. That's not to say that you can't be a software developer and a ColdFusion developer... far from it, in fact. An overwhelming majority of CF Developers don't have a background in development with "traditional" programming languages and/or don't develop CF Apps in as modular and reusable a manner as they could. That doesn't mean they're less valuable in a development environment. The majority of the companies using CF, in my experience, don't have business needs that require their CF Applications to be written in such a way. If a CF Developer can quickly knock out a few simple pages to perform CRUD operations and that's all that's ever asked of them, it's difficult to warrant them taking the time to learn and use more sophisticated development techniques... not if they are constantly working under tight deadlines, anyway. Obviously, this doesn't apply to everyone - but it is a very common scenario. I don't believe that whether the applications a person develops are web-based, standalone, or a hybrid of the two, has anything to do with whether or not they're a "software developer". Programming is programming and the approach to development distinguishes what category of programmer a person falls into. It's all zeros and ones in the end, after all ;)
~Simon Simon Horwith CIO, AboutWeb - http://www.aboutweb.com Editor-in-Chief, ColdFusion Developers Journal Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Master Instructor Blog - http://www.horwith.com Maureen wrote: >Web only, as in being built by tools specifically designed for the >web, such as JAVA, Cold Fusion and .NET as opposed to non-web >programming languages than the average web developer would not know? >Millions of them. > >I suspect the original job posting was looking for someone whose skill >set extended beyond web applications. > > >On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:14:19 -0500, Michael Dinowitz ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>In this day and age, how many 'websites' are web only? >> >> >> >>>Web developers usually only do websites. Software developers are >>>experienced in creating applications for use beyond the web, or >>>integrating web sites with other applications. >>> >>> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2176 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54