Wow.  I'm not sure if I agree with everything you list, but I think a lot of 
neighborhoods in and around DC have gone through an incredible amount of change 
in the last 5-10 years.  Lots of development both within the city as well as 
out very far in the suburbs.  Friends of mine keep moving farther out in order 
to be able to afford bigger houses for growing families.  So it's a 
double-edged sword.  The DC area has had lower unemployment in general than the 
rest of the U.S. (I believe it's around 3-3.5% right now) mainly due to the 
large amount of government and government-related jobs, although there are 
certainly a fair share of purely technology or non-gov't related companies out 
there.  But this also means that the cost of living is higher.  More people 
have more income and what with the interest rates the housing market has been 
out of control.  Not quite as high as New York, but not that far away either!  

I would say your two best places to learn more about the area, its 
neighborhoods current events, etc., etc., is http://www.washingtonpost.com/ 
(The major newspaper here - they also host washingtonjobs.com), and 
http://www.washingtonian.com/ (the major local magazine which has lots of great 
resources and info about the area).  Good luck!  I've lived in Rocville, 
Gaithersburg, and Germantown Maryland, Adams Morgan in DC, Arlington, and 
Vienna Virginia.  My personal favorite of these, and where I live now is 
Vienna, although there are many other cool areas that I wouldn't mind living - 
Clarendon, Takoma Park, Old Town Alexandria, Falls Church City, etc.  Most of 
these places, though, are pretty pricey, at least to live in the better parts 
of them. As far as safety, well, there are good and bad areas throughout, 
although probably the worst crime areas are Souteast and Northeast DC - 
although the Capitol Hill area is in Southeast and that's been doing really 
well.  It's not all cut and dry is all, but you will get a much better picture 
by just driving around and talking to people who live in various parts of the 
area...  Good luck!

Levi Wallach 

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From: Simon Horwith
Sent: Fri 1/21/05 4:02 PM
To: CF-Jobs-Talk
Subject: Re: DC Jobs - What the...


I lived in the DC area for 5 years before moving to London and now I'm 
back again.  I like the DC area.  In terms of nightlife - if you like 
clubbing, dancing, and/or drinking, DC is really good.  There aren't 
quite as many places for that stuff as in New York City, but it's close 
(and usually cheaper, too).  The best areas to go for that sort of stuff 
depends on your taste, but most likely you're going to want to hang-out 
in the Adams Morgan and Dupont Circle areas.  Georgetown has a few 
bars/clubs that are fun as well.  There are many very large nightclubs 
more downtown - closer to chinatown.  There are also some nice bars in 
VA, though not much in terms of clubbing/dancing there.  If you're into 
museums and culture, DC is terriffic - all of the national museums are 
here.... it'd take you over a year of spending every single weekend in a 
museum to see them all.  There are also a lot of nice monuments, govt 
buildings to tour, and parks.  It's a terriffic city, really.  You'll 
most likely want to stay in North West DC - the rest of it can be nice 
but you're much more likely to end-up in bad neighborhoods/dangerous 
situations in those areas.

Places to live: if you don't want to be downtown and also want to be in 
a good and convenient location, Arlington, VA is good... so are some of 
the neighborhoods in MD like Bethesda and Silver Spring.  There are more 
nice neighborhoods I would also recommend if you don't require being 
walking distance to the Metro.  I like being in extremely convenient 
locations personally.... yesterday my wife and I found out our offer on 
a condo was approved, so it looks like I'm going to be living in the 
Logan Circle area - very convenient to Dupont Circle as well as 
downtown.  I used to live in Arlington, in the Courthouse/Clarendon 
area, and that's a very hip, young, safe, and fun place to be.  It's 
also very convenient to getting into the heart of DC.  Old Town 
Alexandria and it's vecinity isn't as convenient a location to get to DC 
from, but it's also not really inconvenient and it is really pretty and fun.
Living conditions are good - it's a booming city with good property and 
fun stuff to do.  It's expensive - that's definitely a negative.  Well, 
the city itself isn't really more expensive than any other, but real 
estate is.  If you're looking at buying, property tax in some areas can 
be pretty high - particularly in Montgomery County, MD.  You don't have 
to worry about crime as long as you're in NW DC, Montgomery County, MD, 
or Arlington VA along the metro.  Some other areas in VA and MD are also 
really safe, especially (obviously) as you move further away from the city.

Regarding the job market - obviously, security clearance does help.  The 
Federal Government is probably the largest single user of CF (if you 
consider all of the Federal govt. it's own entity).  DC also has a VERY 
large number of associations.... most of them also use ColdFusion.  
These account for the majority of the jobs.  This was also the center of 
the dot com boom - certainly on the East Coast, anyway, so there are 
still a decent number of companies here that do consuting and 
contracting.  Even if you don't work for the govt. or an association, 
you'll probably be doing development on applications for them.  Being 
the East Coast dot com capital also means that there are still several 
start-ups in town, though obviously a large number of them did disappear 
when the bubble burst.  Don't worry aif you don't have clearance... 
therre's plenty of work without one and you may end-up working for a 
company or on a contract that gets you one.  If you have the opportunity 
to get clearance, seize that opportunity... there's far more work here 
that requires clearance than there are people with clearance, so you'll 
be EXTREMELY marketable - even in this market.  I don't have clearance 
but hope to have an opportunity to get it sometime soon.

There are a lot of places to look for jobs and houses/apts. but your 
best bet is washingtonpost.com.  The washingtonpost.com website for jobs 
is actually http://www.washingtonjobs.com.

Hope that answers all of your questions?  DC is a really cool place to 
live (and has a great job market) - if you have any other questions, 
feel free to ping me.

~Simon

Simon Horwith
CIO, AboutWeb - http://www.aboutweb.com
Editor-in-Chief, ColdFusion Developers Journal
Member of Team Macromedia
Macromedia Certified Master Instructor
Blog - http://www.horwith.com




K Edwards wrote:

>Based on the previous topic and the fact the Atlanta CF job market leaves much 
>to be desired, I invite any and all DC based companies to post or send me 
>available job opps. I am a very experienced CF'er along with many other web 
>related skill sets, and I would consider moving to DC if I could find the 
>right opportunity.
> 
>Seems to me many jobs I see in DC or VI require a security clearance which i 
>don't have and I would guess the type of job that is not much fun, being 
>government type work. Could be wrong but let us know. 
> 
>Not being from DC I would like to know what you DC'ers thought about the area 
>like what is a good, central, accessable, interesting, affordable, fun, etc.. 
>place to work and live. Not the far out subburbs and prob not downtown, but a 
>happy medium and what to look for in that town in terms of good (living 
>conditions, etc) vs bad (traffic, crime).
> 
>In essence, what the hell is going on in DC with CF work these days and should 
>the rest of us want to be there?
>
>



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