@Dave, ""A good manager who manages to their employees and who THEY are (the employee) can manage anyone remotely. If they need to be micro, it's because the employee's abilities/skills demand it."" It is unfortunate that in my career, I have only found 1 or 2 managers who come even 'close' to that description.
@thread, I see both sides of this coin. The benefits of having an employee or contractor on-site as well as the benefits of having a telecommuter. Personally, I prefer to have a 'blended' environment. An environment where although the programmer may work off-site, there is availability to come on-site for department meetings. But then, I hire based on my needs, not necessarily on the needs or the individual programmer. I will, use a telecommuter in positions that I feel can warrant that type of arrangement, but I will also require 'on-site' only as my needs, or my client needs, require it. William ::-----Original Message----- ::From: Dave Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ::Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 2:54 PM ::To: CF-Jobs-Talk ::Subject: RE: What Cold Fusion Job boards are there? :: ::I don't think the point here is that a project lead or client shouldn't be ::able to ask the developer a question. That's kind of ludicrous. However, ::calling and asking a question in detail is just as weasy as turning around ::and asking a question in detail. And, better yet, quick questions done ::over ::IM usually don't turn into long conversations, like they can in person. :: ::That said, one thing is TRUE: A manager's attitude and preferences will ::determine whether or not a remote relationship will work. It's not ::whether ::a developer can do it or not, really (although there are probably some who ::are better off to be working in an office, or not developing at all). ::It's ::really what the manager's method of management is. A micro manager (don't ::assume I mean micro managers are bad) can't manage remote employees - they ::will go crazy (both the manager and the employee). :: ::A good manager who manages to their employees and who THEY are (the ::employee) can manage anyone remotely. If they need to be micro, it's ::because the employee's abilities/skills demand it. :: ::Dave :: ::-----Original Message----- ::From: Phillip M. Vector [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ::Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 4:28 PM ::To: CF-Jobs-Talk ::Subject: Re: What Cold Fusion Job boards are there? :: ::carl starm wrote: ::> I find that day to day collaboration is much easy if I can turn around, ::ask a question in detail and get a quick answer. Again not a requirement, ::but my experience has been that having a team together physically has been ::most productive. :: ::Just to note, that person you just asked a question in detail to may now ::have to spend time getting back to what he's doing. :) :: ::It works both ways though.. I once had a client who (no stretching of ::the truth here) called me 10 times a day asking about the project. I ::eventually got it done, but it ended up taking triple the time. :: :: :: :: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:4001 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11