And, what's with that Juno plug at the end. I have never seen a corporation have one of those free internet ads at the end. Just my one 1/2 cents worth. :) -----Original Message----- From: Guy J. McDowell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 7:58 AM To: CF-Jobs Subject: RE: check out the spam collaborative solutions sent to me personally.... Kind of makes me wonder what kind of company it is anyway, when they have a Hotmail e-mail account as a primary contact... That's my two cents worth. Yours In Conservation, Guy J. McDowell, Webmaster The Ontario Federation of Anglers & Hunters E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (705) 748-6324 ext. 262 P.S. www.OFAH.org - The flagship site for the O.F.A.H. with NEW Election2000 Section www.AuctionForWildlife.com - Your chance to make your bid for conservation. www.EcoEd.org - an online adventure for kids in grades 1 through 8. www.HuntingDog.org - Celebrating our Hunting Dog Heritage. www.AHTV.com - Your online companion to the Angler and Hunter Television show. www.OHEP.net - Where to find out and learn about the Ontario Hunter Education Program. -----Original Message----- From: nb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 8:40 AM To: CF-Jobs Subject: check out the spam collaborative solutions sent to me personally.... Hey Developers - This is definitely a company to avoid. Check out the intelligence shown by their HR person!! The message below was a response to a message I posted to the list about two weeks ago. I guess he/she/it was too shy to send it to the world... and for good reason... I am sharing it so that anyone who has a desire to do business with them has a taste of who he/she will be dealing with. Neil -----Original Message----- From: Collaborative Solutions [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 3:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Jr. Developers, protect yourselves -- RE: jr coldfusion developer...thanks for the response your advise shows your ignorance on the subject. You sound like a schmuck with your advise. Is there a conspiracy out there trying to take advantage of people. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO >From: "nb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: CF-Jobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Jr. Developers, protect yourselves -- RE: jr coldfusion >developer...thanks for the response >Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 15:09:22 -0500 > >To Jr. Cold Fusion Developers out there -- > >I know that these resume-building opportunities are very tempting as you >try >to climb your way to the top, but make sure that you PROTECT YOURSELF. If >you are creating a page for a non-profit organization or something >beneficial to the community, doing work for free is one thing. However, if >a commercial venture is looking for dirt-cheap or free labor, tell them to >go start a sweat shop! You won't be able to land the $200,000 or even the >$20,000 projects up front, but make sure you're getting your fare share if >someone is harvesting fruits from your labor. Build your resume up but >make >sure that you have money to pay the bills... > >A fellow Jr. CF_Developer [who has been screwed by creeps like this] > >used car salesmen sell more than just cars.... > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: David Shadovitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 6:40 PM >To: CF-Jobs >Subject: Re: jr coldfusion developer...thanks for the response > > >No pay is a win/win situation? Does either half of that ratio correspond >to the programmer? >-David > >On Fri, 10 Nov 2000 15:06:28 PST "Collaborative Solutions" ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Thanks for the response so far. I noticed that I probably did not > > make > > myself clear enough. This is a non-paid project. I do not wish to > > insult > > anyone but, give someone the opportunity to be involved in expanding > > their > > portfolio and their career. Of course any new ColdFusion > > requirements we > > come across, this individual would get first consideration. For the > > most > > part this individual will have creative freedom with our input. > > This > > project is ideal for someone that wants to devote some part-time > > work on the > > side or who has the luxury to devote fulltime hours to it. Silicon > > Valley > > candidate is preferred but telecommuter would be ok also considering > > the > > nature of the work. > > > > > > > > > > We are a brand new recruiting agency start-up that is looking for a > > CF > > Developer to help us design a dynamic website from the ground up! > > This will > > be the ideal opportunity for someone who wants to add something to > > their > > portfolio and gain great experience. This site will be fully > > operational > > and we are more than willing to give you all the credit for > > developing it. > > > > We are a very small company but with good connections and we won't > > forget > > the people that helped us get started. > > > > We are in the Silicon Valley and our focus is on placing fulltime or > > > > contractor IT and Engineering people also focusing in on ColdFusion. > > > > This is a mutual win/win opportunity for the right person. We will > > also be > > incorporating in the near future some video attributes that could > > prove to > > be interesting. > > > > Please email me with your contact information along with a resume or > > a > > website of your work. The URL is www.collaborativetechnical.com > > which is > > only parked at the moment. > > > > thank you >________________________________________________________________ >YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! >Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! >Try it today - there's no risk! 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