> I just looked at the viewers you're talking about, set them to
> my favorites,
> jumped out to one of the sites where we're using a line just like you're
> talking about with document.write() in the middle of the page,
> and all it
> showed me in the source generated from your viewer was exactly
> what I would
> get if I viewed the source otherwise.

What browser are you using? I'm using IE5.5 here, and when I go to a pure
document.write() page like:

  http://fuselets.com/cftips/

and do a regular view source, all I see is the one-line JS reference.
Using the SourceViewer bookmark while there, I see the complete HTML
output of the page, the results of the document.write.

> also, I just tried the
> cookie viewer,
> and although somewhat interesting at first, I quickly found
> that most sites
> have permissions set on the reading of the cookies,

I've never heard of "permissions" settings on cookies. It's just a simple
JS call to read the cookies on the current domain, I've never seen it
fail. What's a URL where it's failing? Here's a couple of my results:

My Cookies at: www.fbi.gov
ASPSESSIONIDQQGQGXSY=MLBLINIDEMALBOEKMGPDGODC


My Cookies at: www.microsoft.com
MC1=V=3&LV=200012&HASH=7CD1&GUID=3126D17C3A1240D0A38F22EE0A256B57


My Cookies at: www.x10.com
vr=VR000; Deal=14379904,TT14,0,0,0,979755380;
info=3,13455522,../x10voucher.htm,bk_mk,216.63.20.97;
GiftID=445857-979098591-31834; x10hotbody.dat=2634;
x10welcomeab2.dat=2811; x10getitbtn.dat=3002; x103cambtn.dat=2864;
x10hotdealbtn.dat=3004; x10prodbtn.dat=3005; x10xcambtn.dat=2809

[WHEW! And what's "hotbody" for?]


-Ron



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ron Hornbaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 3:42 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [KCFusion] off topic - IMail javascript box
>
>
> It's just simple DHTML. The View Source is grayed-out due to something
> weird in your browser; there's no way to lock that out. We do the same
> trick on the headers at http://killerwebmail.com/ (a better
> IMail webmail
> interface - login in with "demo" and "blue" to check it out) if you want
> to try to view the source there.
>
> Speaking of viewing the source, here's a cool little trick I figured out
> the other day. Tired of not being able to see the actual HTML
> output of a
> JS document.write() function, I created a bookmarkable JS source viewer,
> that also has a side benefit of cleaning up the HTML's capitalization,
> missing tags, etc.:
>
>  http://www.humankindsystems.com/sourcelink.htm
>
> Using that tool from a bookmark, you'll be able to see the source of any
> page. Also have a handy CookieViewer bookmark there, to check
> your cookies
> on any site. Very helpful when debugging cookie problems, or just to see
> all the info various sites are collecting on you.
>
> -Ron
>
> Ron Hornbaker
> President/CTO
>   .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  http://humankindsystems.com
>   .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  w e  c o d e.  w e  c a r e.
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> > Behalf Of Keith Purtell
> > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 11:18 AM
> > To: KCFusion (E-mail)
> > Subject: [KCFusion] off topic - IMail javascript box
> >
> >
> > Though off topic, I'm posting because several members here have
> > worked with
> > IMail server product. The recent version has a feature where,
> if you are
> > reading a message and click "Header", it will generate a box
> > containing the
> > full email header info. What caught my eye is that although
> > this box sits on
> > top of the existing page content (edges of box bisect
> characters in text
> > below, so it's not inserting an HTML table), it is still within
> > the browser
> > window, and will scroll with the page contents. I tried to
> look at their
> > JavaScript but "View source" was grayed out. How did they do that?
> >
> > Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
> > VantageMed Operations (Kansas City)
> > Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>

 
 
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