John,

Can you remind me what you have proposed in place of ctd_fluorometer_voltage for the example under discussion? Would "fluorometer_reading" be an appropriate standard name, and you could attach a units attribute indicating the measurement is in volts. (The thing being measured is clearly *not* temperature, even though you might be able to estimate the temperature based on the measurement, so I see no reason to include temperature in the standard_name.)

Karl


John Graybeal wrote:
Thank you all for all your thoughts on this.

Jonathan Gregory <[email protected]> 03/12/09 9:57 PM >>>

I don't really know what it is, of course, but it sounds like it could have a standard name of ctd_fluorometer_voltage and units of V. <snip> Here, the quantity being named relates specifically to a means of measurement, not to the final product.


I must quibble. The quantity being named relates specifically to the _units_ of the measurement, not the means of measurement. And the reason this (new standard name) must be done is that Standard Names are specifically tied to units (via the canonical units requirement), and so the strange unit forces a different standard name.

And so for purest reflection of meaning, we are back to something like 'variant_unit' (instead of 'raw'). I discourage incorporating the unit in the standard name ('voltage' in Jonathan's example) because there is no way to know if *this* temperature_voltage variable is interoperable with *that* temperature_voltage, unless attributes for conversion to canonical units are provided. So the units attribute can name the units, and this standard name should just make clear that the units are not canonical units.

And, can we make it an item in appendix C, please?

What are example of non-udunits? V is a udunit, all right. Perhaps a non-udunit
is just a count of something? Does that need units? It could simply be
regarded as dimensionless.


Addressed in other thread; no non-udunits have been identified so far relating to raw geophysical data.

John

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