Hi.

I think there is still value in adding an attribute to the grid_mapping set 
where the name of the vertical datum can be supplied.  The datums (data?) have 
“standard” names (not CF standard names).  If you aren’t using a named vertical 
datum, you could specify either “none” (or just don’t specify the attribute) or 
“custom” if you are using a datum that hasn’t been given a name.  I agree that 
the name alone is not necessarily sufficient, but it does provide a 
human-readable marker, whereas the WKT and URN approaches require further 
digging.

Just to be clear, I’m not advocating either/or with regards to the more 
rigorous approaches.  A “vertical_datum” attribute that contains a 
human-readable name should be present in addition to one (or more) of the other 
approaches.

Grace and peace,

Jim

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On Feb 7, 2014, at 10:25 AM, Hedley, Mark <mark.hed...@metoffice.gov.uk> wrote:

> Hello Rich
> 
> I think that using the WKT representation for vertical datum definitions is a 
> good approach
> 
> As you have indicated, it is to be supported in CF 1.7 and provides a 
> controlled terminology set for this purpose.
> 
> There is an example using the OS Newlyn datum in the draft spec which fits 
> quite nicely.  
> 
> I'd rather see us adopting WKT for complex issues like this than creating a 
> syntax for encoding CF grid_mapping attributes, there's a lot of prior art we 
> can benefit from.
> 
> For example WKT enables me to specify more than just the EPSG code, which is 
> useful as not all datum instances are provided by EPSG
> 
> mark
> ________________________________________
> From: CF-metadata [cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu] on behalf of Signell, 
> Richard [rsign...@usgs.gov]
> Sent: 04 February 2014 11:47
> To: CF metadata
> Subject: [CF-metadata] Vertical datums (again)
> 
> CF folks,
> 
> On a telecon yesterday with a coastal inundation modeling group, one
> of the PIs asked me how to handle vertical datums in NetCDF --
> specifically where to specify that the model bathymetry and water
> levels were were relative to NAVD88.   I wasn't sure how to reply.
> 
> Was there any resolution to the 2nd half of this question asked back in 2011?
> http://mailman.cgd.ucar.edu/pipermail/cf-metadata/2011/054483.html
> 
> I looked at the draft 1.7 spec, and the only vertical datum reference
> info I found was the ability to specify VERT_DATUM in the new CRS
> well-known-text (WKT) section:
> http://cf-pcmdi.llnl.gov/documents/cf-conventions/1.7-draft1/ch05s06.html#idp5644304
> 
> Is this how we should specify the vertical datum in CF, using VERT_DATUM in 
> WKT?
> 
> Thanks,
> Rich
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