Dear all,

I kinda like the idea of changing "above sea level" to "above mean sea level", but it still remains somewhat vague, since the period over which the mean is computed isn't specified. Or is there some accepted time? In any case maybe it is o.k. to be vague????

best regards,
Karl


On 5/25/17 7:02 AM, Jonathan Gregory wrote:
Dear Alison and Nan

Many thanks for doing this, Alison, and apologies that I didn't have time for
it sooner myself. I think this is all fine except for the phrase defining
geopotential datum, which appears in several of them. I would say

The "geopotential datum" is any estimated surface of constant geopotential used
as a datum i.e. a reference level; for the geoid as a datum, specific standard
names are available.

The geoid is a geopotential (equipotential) surface, namely the one which
encloses (between itself and the solid Earth below) a volume equal to the
volume of the ocean, often informally described as the surface the ocean would
have if it were at rest. The ellipsoid isn't a geopotential surface. We intro-
duced the term "geopotential datum" in https://cf-trac.llnl.gov/trac/ticket/118

Nan commented

Re: The term 'height_above_sea_level', defined as "Height_above_X" means the
vertical distance above the named surface X. "sea_level" means *mean* sea
level, which is close to the geoid in sea areas.' Someone recording observed
met data on a buoy, looking for the best term for the sensor heights, might
easily choose this instead of 'height', but the height in that case is above
actual sea level; varying over time. If this variable is meant to be 'height
above mean sea level', that should be its name.

There are about a dozen standard names using sea_level to mean mean_sea_level
consistently, and we don't currently use the phrase mean_sea_level at all. If
people agree, we could rename the existing standard names as Nan suggests for
this new one.

Best wishes

Jonathan

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Date: Thu, 18 May 2017 11:37:54 +0000
From: alison.pamm...@stfc.ac.uk
To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu
Subject: [CF-metadata] Standard names for CF trac ticket #143

Dear Jonathan, All,

CF trac ticket #143 (https://cf-trac.llnl.gov/trac/ticket/143) has been agreed 
and will be included in CF 1.7. A number of new standard names are needed to 
support the implementation of this ticket. They are names for constants used in 
the formula_terms attribute of parameterized vertical coordinates.

The following names are proposed.

air_pressure_at_top_of_atmosphere_model (Pa)
' "Top of atmosphere model" means the upper boundary of the top layer of an 
atmosphere model.'

altitude_at_top_of_atmosphere_model (m)
'Altitude is the (geometric) height above the geoid, which is the reference geopotential 
surface. The geoid is similar to mean sea level. "Top of atmosphere model" 
means the upper boundary of the top layer of an atmosphere model.'

reference_air_pressure_for_atmosphere_vertical_coordinate (Pa)
'For models using a dimensionless vertical coordinate, for example, sigma, hybrid 
sigma-pressure or eta, the values of the vertical coordinate at the model levels are 
calculated relative to a reference level. "Reference air pressure" is the air 
pressure at the model reference level. It is a model-dependent constant."

height_above_geopotential_datum_at_top_of_atmosphere_model (m)
' "Height_above_X" means the vertical distance above the named surface X. The "geopotential 
datum" is the geopotential reference level (level of zero geopotential) where this is not a specifically 
named level such as the geoid or a reference ellipsoid. "Top of atmosphere model" means the upper 
boundary of the top layer of an atmosphere model.'

height_above_geopotential_datum (m)
'"Height_above_X" means the vertical distance above the named surface X. The 
"geopotential datum" is the geopotential reference level (level of zero geopotential) 
where this is not a specifically named level such as the geoid or a reference ellipsoid.'

surface_height_above_geopotential_datum (m)
' "Height_above_X" means the vertical distance above the named surface X. The surface called 
"surface" means the lower boundary of the atmosphere. The "geopotential datum" is the 
geopotential reference level (level of zero geopotential) where this is not a specifically named level such 
as the geoid or a reference ellipsoid.'

sea_surface_height_above_geopotential_datum (m)
' "Height_above_X" means the vertical distance above the named surface X. The "geopotential 
datum" is the geopotential reference level (level of zero geopotential) where this is not a specifically 
named level such as the geoid or a reference ellipsoid. "Sea surface height" is a time-varying 
quantity.'

sea_floor_depth_below_geopotential_datum (m)
' "Depth_below_X" means the vertical distance below the named surface X. The 
"geopotential datum" is the geopotential reference level (level of zero geopotential) 
where this is not a specifically named level such as the geoid or a reference ellipsoid.'

sea_floor_depth_below_reference_ellipsoid (m)
' "Depth_below_X" means the vertical distance below the named surface X. A 
reference ellipsoid is a regular mathematical figure that approximates the irregular 
shape of the geoid. A number of reference ellipsoids are defined for use in the field of 
geodesy.'

height_above_sea_level (m)
' "Height_above_X" means the vertical distance above the named surface X. 
"sea_level" means mean sea level, which is close to the geoid in sea areas.'

I have based the definitions on my own reading of ticket #143 and on existing 
names. I'd welcome comments to improve them.

Best wishes,
Alison

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