The issue turned out to be a bug in how IE handles the keep alive connections 
under SSL.

from the modSSL.org website FAQ:

When I connect via HTTPS to an Apache+mod_ssl+OpenSSL server with Microsoft 
Internet Explorer (MSIE) I get various I/O errors. What is the reason?    [L]

The first reason is that the SSL implementation in some MSIE versions has some 
subtle bugs related to the HTTP keep-alive facility and the SSL close notify 
alerts on socket connection close. Additionally the interaction between SSL and 
HTTP/1.1 features are problematic with some MSIE versions, too. You've to 
work-around these problems by forcing Apache+mod_ssl+OpenSSL to not use 
HTTP/1.1, keep-alive connections or sending the SSL close notify messages to 
MSIE clients. This can be done by using the following directive in your 
SSL-aware virtual host section:

    SetEnvIf User-Agent ".*MSIE.*" \
             nokeepalive ssl-unclean-shutdown \
             downgrade-1.0 force-response-1.0

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Anyhow thanks for all your help.

larry

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