Try asking Able for the wizards source code. They gave them to me after I complained
and I was able
to customize some things as needed. It turned out it wasn't enough so I had to pay the
$1500 for
source of everything, but they may give you the wizards at least without charging.
Chris Giminez
Owner - Cyber Scriber Web Site Design
831-728-4469
ICQ# 2628000
> What I meant is when you click on Van Seats for example, you see only 2
> products out of maybe 30.
>
> Then to see the other 28 (since they're no displayed in one column), you
> have to click a next button over and over again to see them in groups of 2.
> And when you try to change the format so they display in one column in
> total or in groups of say 10 in a column, lo and behold, theres no way to
> get into the templates.
>
> The wizards in Able Commerce are quite cryptic and help section is not very
> helpful. If anyone found a way to get around these obstacles without buying
> the open source version (another $1500), please let me know. Thanks.
>
> At 09:52 PM 4/16/2000 +0100, you wrote:
> >You use the 'Styles' to set, say a group. So the first step would be to
> >design a style for your group. In the style you may insert any HTML code at
> >various points. So, for example design your trucks header with photo etc and
> >insert it into a style as header one - in the wizard for the group select
> >the style you have just designed and turn of all navigation options etc.
> >In the style also decide on colours etc for the background.
> >here is a site with thousands of able commerce pages - I have used a Java
> >navigation applet in the right hand frame to be able to navigate to any
> >counter - I call their 3 levels, Department, counter and product - rather
> >than use their terminology. The counters on this site only take minutes to
> >design in able commerce.
> >http://www.fishtec.co.uk
> >Kind regards
> >
> >
> >Paul Burgess
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2000 8:52 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: Is Able Commerce truly user-unfriendly and hence useless?
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear Paul,
> > >
> > > I tried this with medium and large sized store. Unfortunately the
> > > templates
> > > don't allow you to go in and customize them to look exactly as you want.
> > > The output is nowhere near what the client is looking for. Normally in
> > > other programs you can go into the code and do this, but in Able
> > > Commerce,
> > > when you're using a wizard you're apparently not able to get into the
> > > source code. Try to get into the underlying CFM file and you find
> > > that its
> > > encrypted. Any ideas? Thanks for the feedback.
> > >
> > > At 01:38 PM 4/16/2000 +0100, you wrote:
> > > >1. You can achieve exactly that in Able Commmerce.
> > > >Choose a large store option and you have three levels.
> > > >Top level - create categories vans, trucks and suvs.
> > > >Now create groups within each of those ie ford trucks, nissan trucks etc.
> > > >Now create products within the groups.
> > > >
> > > >For each group, go to the style for that group and simply enter up your
> > > >photo etc to show just what you are asking for.
> > > >
> > > >You must have set it up wrong if you are not achieving this - what demo
> > > >store did you copy? You need at least a medium size store for
> > > what you wish
> > > >to achieve.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Paul Burgess
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2000 1:18 PM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: RE: Is Able Commerce truly user-unfriendly and hence useless?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a site with 3 categories:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. VANS
> > > > > 2. TRUCKS
> > > > > 3. SUVS
> > > > >
> > > > > So what I need to do is have three tabs on the home page, each
> > > > > tab going to
> > > > > a page that has the group listings of each category on the next
> > > > > page. So if
> > > > > a visitor clicks on VANS, they go to a page with a nice
> > > picture of a van
> > > > > and a listing of all VAN products. When they click on a product,
> > > > > they see a
> > > > > display, etc. This I have not been able to accomplish with Able
> > > > > Commerce's
> > > > > so called wizards.
> > > > >
> > > > > Next, I need to change the icons, that I agree is not such a big
> > > > > deal but I
> > > > > was amazed that they would have enough courage to ship their
> > > product with
> > > > > such an ugly set. A real montrosity, I share this to vent my
> > > frustration
> > > > > with the user-unfriendliness of the product. I couldn't even
> > > get one page
> > > > > to list all 3 categories in a table with 3 rows.
> > > > >
> > > > > And finally to add insult to injury, when someone clicks on SEATS as a
> > > > > group listing, on the next page, instead of seeing a listing
> > > of all seats
> > > > > one after another vertically in a column, the visitor is expected
> > > > > to click
> > > > > on an ugly NEXT button to see the next one. No thumbnails,
> > > highly arcane
> > > > > looking navigation system created by their templates/wizards with
> > > > > graphics
> > > > > hit hard by an ugly stick. Not only is the program not easy
> > > to use, the
> > > > > resulting PREVIEWS look so bad due to the layout/ugly icons,
> > > I dare not
> > > > > show them to my client.
> > > > >
> > > > > At 01:19 PM 4/16/2000 +0100, you wrote:
> > > > > >I do not understand - you can change all the icons in any
> > > version of Able
> > > > > >Commerce. I agree they do not supply an icon library but there
> > > > > are so many
> > > > > >of those anway. Can you be more specific about what you cannot easily
> > > > > >customise. I have no commercial interest in Able just want
> > > to see a fair
> > > > > >representation of the product.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Paul Burgess
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2000 12:57 PM
> > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Is Able Commerce truly user-unfriendly and
> > > hence useless?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dear Adrian,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Try to customize the look and feel of your pages and then let me
> > > > > > > know if I
> > > > > > > am being unfair. The basic look created by Able Commerce is
> > > > > so ugly there
> > > > > > > should be a law against it. In fact I'm writing my Senator
> > > > > about it right
> > > > > > > now - i.e. abolish any net tax incentives but do enact a web site
> > > > > > > ugliness
> > > > > > > law to incentivise the folks at Able Commerce to come up with
> > > > > > > some at least
> > > > > > > half way decent looking icons instead of those hit hard with an
> > > > > > > ugly stick.
> > > > > > > We want visitors to stay on a site, not run away from it due to
> > > > > > > torture to
> > > > > > > the eyeballs. I would write to Clinton but hes no doubt
> > > > > sidetracked with
> > > > > > > some intern:)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bottom line is this is a totally frustrating piece of
> > > > > software, there has
> > > > > > > to be something out there thats more user friendly. I've
> > > tackled more
> > > > > > > complex jobs than a mere shopping cart deal in the past,
> > > but this Able
> > > > > > > Commerce is unfortunately despite a GUI admin very user
> > > > > > > unfriendly. Again,
> > > > > > > appreciate any help as far as a ref to a workable program.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > Pardee.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > At 12:54 PM 4/16/2000 +0100, you wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The basic look made by Able Commerce is so ugly that the
> > > > > > > resulting pages
> > > > > > > > > make one desire to throw up.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >I think you are being somewhat unfair to Able Commerce from my
> > > > > > > experimentation
> > > > > > > >with it :-) But as I don't use the program yet in
> > > production, perhaps
> > > > > > > >others who
> > > > > > > >do could address your concerns.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >While I am here - I need recommendations for CF based eCommerce
> > > > > > > system, which
> > > > > > > >will enable full online order tracking by shoppers - Amazon
> > > > > > > style etc.. Any
> > > > > > > >recommendations?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >I also have a client who wants an auction system (the
> > > > > customer is always
> > > > > > > >right) - what is the best CF based auction system out there?
> > > > > > > Emaze looks
> > > > > > > >good -
> > > > > > > >anyone used it?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Thanks.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Adrian Cooper.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
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