We always agree... we just pretend like we at each other's throats for
the entertainment of the list.

Matt Liotta
President & CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Craig Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 6:15 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: filesystem security (was: Idea Incubator -
javax.imageio.Imag
> eReader)
> 
> Holy s$%# Batman!  did Dave and Matt just agree!?
> 
> 
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >>Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 7:39 PM
> >>To: CF-Talk
> >>Subject: RE: filesystem security (was: Idea Incubator -
> >>javax.imageio.Imag eReader)
> >>
> >>
> >>I certainly agree and have stated so in other threads. The virtual
> >>machine image concept is finally starting to go somewhere. It is now
> >>possible to easily host many different Linux images on the same
> >>hardware. IBM also offers this kind of setup on its mainframes.
> >>Although, the costs of hardware are making this setup less cost
> >>effective. For example, RLX makes a blade chassis that can
accommodate
> >>24 blades in 3 U of space. With each blade costing around $1500 a
piece,
> >>a rack full of blades is a much better deal than a mainframe.
> >>
> >>Matt Liotta
> >>President & CEO
> >>Montara Software, Inc.
> >>http://www.montarasoftware.com/
> >>V: 415-577-8070
> >>F: 415-341-8906
> >>P: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >>> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 4:38 PM
> >>> To: CF-Talk
> >>> Subject: RE: filesystem security (was: Idea Incubator -
> >>javax.imageio.Imag
> >>> eReader)
> >>>
> >>> > I think this brings up interesting security issues for
> >>> > virtual hosting companies. In this case, accessing files
> >>> > with IE would be done using the application server's user.
> >>> > Thus enabling all of the virtual users to see each other's
> >>> > files since there is only a single application server.
> >>>
> >>> Well, personally, I've always thought that secure shared hosting
was
> >>> always
> >>> pretty much a lost cause. I think that the only reasonably safe
> >>approach
> >>> is
> >>> to use virtual machines - something like VMware's GSX server, for
> >>example.
> >>> While Jochem's setup is probably safe enough for most people, I
doubt
> >>that
> >>> many shared hosting providers go to that extreme. It just seems
like
> >>too
> >>> much trouble to me, but maybe I'm just too lazy. And when you
start
> >>using
> >>> CF
> >>> in virtual machines, I suspect you might need one license for each
VM,
> >>> which
> >>> might be a bit expensive.
> >>>
> >>> I do remember the "old days", though, when a web server
administrator
> >>was
> >>> expected to read every CGI script to ensure that it didn't do
anything
> >>> bad.
> >>>
> >>> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> >>> http://www.figleaf.com/
> >>> voice: (202) 797-5496
> >>> fax: (202) 797-5444
> >>>
> >>
> 
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